September 17, 2010

A Conversation With Pvblivs

From a prior conversation.

Pvb,

>> Rather than say "revelation" more loudly and slowly, you could try giving us some specifics of this revelation so that we can distinguish it from you blowing smoke.

It is the Christian position that God has revealed Himself to all mankind (collective natural and special revelation) so that we can know for certain who He is. Those who deny His existence are suppressing the Truth in unrighteousness to avoid accountability to God. It is the ultimate act of rebellion against Him and reveals the professing atheist's contempt toward God.

>> I want to know your revelation so I can argue against that.



With what, knowledge? Your comment reveals a belief in the existence of knowledge, which is certain by definition. How is this possible in your, "an atheistic" worldview?

>>Your evasions are quite convincing evidence of your inability.

The only possible way that we can know anything for certain is by Divine revelation from One who knows everything. It is the Christian position that God has revealed some things to us so that we can be certain of them.

I know it for certain, as it is impossible to know anything absent certainty.

I'll show you what I mean: tell me one thing that you know absent certainty.

>>Well, your god has given me no revelation.

This is a perfect example of a knowledge claim for us to examine. You speak as if you are certain that God has given you no revelation. Are you? It is impossible to know anything absent certainty.

>>This alone suggest that your "revelation," which you claim to include me, is not true.

There's another knowledge claim. Are you certain that Pvblivs? Since we now revealed the truth of your knowledge claims do you concede that it is indeed true?

Some definitions for you:

knowledge (n)--the fact or state of knowing; the perception of fact or truth; clear and certain mental apprehension.

know (v)--1. To perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty. 2. To be cognizant or aware of.

Take care.