tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post1312611303552848407..comments2024-03-19T01:46:23.275-04:00Comments on Debunking Atheists: Who is the Antichrist? A PerspectiveD. A. N. http://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-86238964858238725282009-08-18T02:21:37.083-04:002009-08-18T02:21:37.083-04:00If you don't have heart trouble I urge you to ...If you don't have heart trouble I urge you to Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" and "Famous Rapture Watchers - Addendum." They can do a number on a person!Rocky2https://www.blogger.com/profile/04154389992453412024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-80895514441268716232009-08-11T18:49:25.775-04:002009-08-11T18:49:25.775-04:00Fine Stan, I will just stick with Earned Media. If...Fine Stan, I will just stick with <a href="http://www.earnedmedia.org/cws.htm" rel="nofollow">Earned Media</a>. If same story is covered then fair game. Agreed then.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-89814571269196843592009-08-11T15:36:25.531-04:002009-08-11T15:36:25.531-04:00Hey Dan, you can stop using WND now, since even th...Hey Dan, you can stop using WND now, since even the boobs at <a href="http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=104197" rel="nofollow">RaptureReady</a> disavow it... I mean, if <i>that</i> group of fruitcakes says something is disreputable...<br /><br />--<br />StanStan, the Half-Truth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260266801557543879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-56181539840022111272009-08-06T05:50:09.572-04:002009-08-06T05:50:09.572-04:00Oh, and a P.S. to Glen20: I just checked out that...Oh, and a P.S. to Glen20: I just checked out that "Kenyan Birth Certificate", and it's a gas. What will those madcap conservatives come up with next? It would be even funnier if stuff like this didn't sucker millions of people who are unaccountably allowed to vote, and do so against their best interests...zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-56509059902025374432009-08-06T02:39:41.687-04:002009-08-06T02:39:41.687-04:00Dan- how much time do we have? Until the end of t...Dan- how much time do we have? Until the end of this year? Care to make a friendly wager?zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-36041194780885255082009-08-05T17:34:40.768-04:002009-08-05T17:34:40.768-04:00Chimp,
To make things clear, yes I hope the end d...Chimp,<br /><br />To make things clear, yes I hope the end days are upon us and I will indeed cheer. I believe they are here. Plus, I could care less if Obama is the antichrist, as long as someone is...soon. Remember tribulation is not wrath so we will be here for the tribulation and the revelation of the Antichrist but we will be raptured before the wrath of God falls upon the earth. You still have time, but not too much.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-81181661142536285822009-08-05T16:36:18.013-04:002009-08-05T16:36:18.013-04:00"Yea, much like evolutionists do."
Sorr...<b>"Yea, much like evolutionists do."</b><br /><br />Sorry Dan, you should know by now thats not how science works. The difference between you and others here who have said this about the person who made the video, is that they have produced a lot of evidence that backs their claim. You Dan, are just doing more hand waving once again.<br /><br />Dan, You still haven't answered my question, <b>"Dan, let me make sure I understand you correctly, you are hopeful that Obama is the Anti-Christ, and cheering for the 'End of Days' to begin?!"</b><br /><br />I look forward to your response.<br /><br />~Atomic ChimpAtomic Chimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402712957793905056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-36003854464913927062009-08-05T15:34:39.083-04:002009-08-05T15:34:39.083-04:00Stan,
Not only did this douchebag start with the ...Stan,<br /><br /><i>Not only did this douchebag start with the result he wished to find, and seek something that sounds vaguely like it somewhere in the bible, but he failed to do so. </i> <br /><br />Yea, much like evolutionists do. Moving on.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-77389228028219505642009-08-05T14:20:42.309-04:002009-08-05T14:20:42.309-04:00Zilch,
Yes I read it but like I said before the v...Zilch,<br /><br />Yes I read it but like I said before the video addressed the first video not the revised one so many of the complaints were addressed. <br /><br /><i>Doesn't this rather go against what you are always telling us is the way to understand Scripture, with "plain reading"?</i> <br /><br />Yes, possibly. Sometimes we go too far in reading into what was being said. In this case I thought it was funny and posted it because it fit my presuppositions about Obama. <br /><br />Did Jesus really mean Obama? <br /><br />Meh, I doubt it.<br /><br />Would I be surprised if He did?<br /><br />Nope.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-39365378231235798682009-08-05T13:42:34.552-04:002009-08-05T13:42:34.552-04:00[T]he problem is that this finding of messages is ...<i>[T]he problem is that this finding of messages is done simply backwards, by starting with a desired word or phrase (say, the name of a black President who is hated by conservatives) and looking for something that sounds vaguely like it (say, "Barak U Vamah") somewhere in the Bible.</i> <br /><br />No, Zilch, it's worse. I'm sure you recognize already what I'm about to say, but Dan clearly does not. Not only did this douchebag start with the result he wished to find, and seek something that sounds vaguely like it somewhere in the bible, but <i>he failed to do so</i>.<br /><br />The phrase he sought does not appear in the bible. <b>Anywhere</b>. Not dismayed, however, he took the phrase with which he had started ("Baraq Uvama," roughly), and searched for a rough <i>English</i> equivalent.<br /><br />When he experienced a minor success in Luke 10, however, it was tempered by the fact that his phrase was <i>Hebrew</i>, yet Luke was written in <i>Greek</i>, <b>so he lied</b>.<br /><br />He lied by saying that Aramaic was virtually identical to Hebrew, when he must've known it was not.<br /><br />He lied by saying that the misspoken Hebrew phrase "Baraq Uvama" is how a Hebrew might say 'lightning from the heavens,' since that is not how the Hebrew word he insists upon using would be translated.<br /><br />He lied when he referenced Isaiah as speaking repeatedly of Lucifer 'falling from the heights,' when that appears exactly <i>once</i> in the whole book.<br /><br />He lied when he referenced the particular passage in Isaiah as supporting his translation for 'heavens' or 'heights,' when a scant two verses earlier a virtual clone of the [translated into English] phrase is found -- which may even be the intended reference in Luke -- yet the "Bama" word is not used.<br /><br />He lied when he stated that the verse he cited discussed Lucifer's fall <i>at all</i>, since that particular verse rather speaks of Lucifer <i>ascending</i>, above the clouds.<br /><br />He lied when he intentionally omitted the word used in Luke for "falling," which <i>does</i> appear in Isaiah 14:12 -- so clearly a Hebrew speaker would have used a term to depict "falling" as appears in Luke's Greek.<br /><br />Lastly, Dan has lied by omission, for refusing to admit that this bullshit fabrication is exactly that, even to the point of claiming that it "sure give evidence [that Obama may be the Antichrist], no matter how slight," <i>after</i> all of the factual errors have been exposed.<br /><br />Dan, you are guilty not only by association, but by your actions. Admit your guilt.<br /><br />--<br />StanStan, the Half-Truth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260266801557543879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-54521908620000020192009-08-05T13:12:29.144-04:002009-08-05T13:12:29.144-04:00I just did, Dan. Did you? Simmons quoted a rabb...I just did, Dan. Did you? Simmons quoted a rabbi as corroborating him, but that's not the case- like many other people, the rabbi pointed out that the Hebrew for "lightning from the heights" would be "Barak U Vamah", not "Barack O Bamah", which is what Simmons claimed. Simmons has the effrontery to say that that's what he said in both films, which is simply a lie. Watch them again if you don't believe me.<br /><br />In any case, the most succinct answer to this is Mark Chu-Carroll's: the problem is that this finding of messages is done simply backwards, by starting with a desired word or phrase (say, the name of a black President who is hated by conservatives) and looking for something that sounds vaguely like it (say, "Barak U Vamah") somewhere in the Bible. Doesn't this rather go against what you are always telling us is the way to understand Scripture, with "plain reading"?<br /><br />One more minor point which I believe no one has made so far: the fact that the current President's name is from a Semitic language, Arabic, makes it that much easier to find words that sound like it in another Semitic language.<br /><br />Dan: okay, now it's your turn. Did you read Mark Chu-Carroll's post that Stan linked to?zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-45099632844353649312009-08-05T12:42:29.518-04:002009-08-05T12:42:29.518-04:00Zilch,
Did you watch the other video he had about...Zilch,<br /><br />Did you watch the other <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDRl3QNkExA&annotation_id=annotation_735185&feature=iv" rel="nofollow">video</a> he had about this subject?D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-88994088596873087902009-08-05T05:51:47.296-04:002009-08-05T05:51:47.296-04:00"Stan, the Half-Truth Teller said...
This vi..."Stan, the Half-Truth Teller said... <br />This video sure give [sic] evidence [that Obama may be the Antichrist], no matter how slight. <br /><br />No. It. Does. Not."<br /><br />Man, I can't quit laughing LOL!<br /><br />This is cognitive dissonace atit's finest.<br />Dan doesn't even make a pretext of being objective.<br />He could see dogshit on the lawn and write a thousand word essay on how it represents that Obama is the anti-christ.<br /><br />It actually creeps me out that this loon is bringing up five children to this lunacy.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-13966719703036457192009-08-05T03:13:10.486-04:002009-08-05T03:13:10.486-04:00Stan- I should have known that Mark Chu-Carroll, a...Stan- I should have known that Mark Chu-Carroll, aka the Good Math, Bad Math guy, would do a proper fisking of this silliness.<br /><br />Dan- please read <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/08/i_am_the_antichrist_no_really.php" rel="nofollow">it.</a> And the comments too, if you dare.zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-10333269803570468502009-08-05T03:08:03.313-04:002009-08-05T03:08:03.313-04:00Glen20,
Thanks for all of that homework on the su...Glen20,<br /><br />Thanks for all of that homework on the subject. <br /><br />I do trust the competency for our system to detect forgeries and frauds and our courts are fully capable of handling something like this. Again, if it has teeth it will bite him (Obama) and it will go down in history as one great story. <br /><br />If not then we have a nation given over to socialism by this joker.<br /><br />You must all understand that I do not trust anything man claims at all ever. I enjoy the banter back and forth and the discussions but I trust the Lord and when Jesus tells me the man was born in Kenya, or Hawaii, or even is the Antichrist then I will know fully, the truth. <br /><br />Until then...D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-8887538573923127552009-08-04T20:49:41.269-04:002009-08-04T20:49:41.269-04:00This whole Obama birth certificate thing is just w...This whole Obama birth certificate thing is just weird and delusional. When you're delusional, you think you're right, though, and there's no convincing you otherwise.<br /><br />So I'm not going to bother. Right wingers are crazy, and this latest bit with Obama's birth certificate is just reminding everyone of that point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-87700635829629622462009-08-04T18:38:19.386-04:002009-08-04T18:38:19.386-04:00This is interesting It looks like a modified Austr...This is interesting <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/53658/is-this-the-source-of-the-forged-kenyan-birth-certificate" rel="nofollow">It looks like a modified Australian man's birth certificate.</a>Glen20https://www.blogger.com/profile/09639357470728423171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-79572142853089842662009-08-04T17:56:16.403-04:002009-08-04T17:56:16.403-04:00Tenth, the date the document was "entered,&qu...Tenth, the date the document was "entered," August 9th, 1961, is the date on which James Benton Parsons became the first black to receive a lifetime appointment as a U.S. District Court judge.<br /><br />Eleventh, the date on which the document was signed/sealed, February 17th, 1964, is the date on which the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the "one man, one vote" rule, in Wesberry v. Sanders.<br /><br />I told you, Dan, that you'd get Poe'd, and here it wasn't even me that caught you.<br /><br />--<br />StanStan, the Half-Truth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260266801557543879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-56038892684307796972009-08-04T17:06:22.366-04:002009-08-04T17:06:22.366-04:00Looks like you're not the only credulous dupe,...Looks like you're not the only credulous dupe, Dan. Apparently other uncritical asses are devouring this video, too.<br /><br />Too bad <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/08/i_am_the_antichrist_no_really.php" rel="nofollow">this guy</a> -- especially his commenters (self excluded, though present) -- shows how stupid your "reasoning" is.<br /><br />Anytime, then, you wish to retract your specious allegations toward Obama -- specifically with respect to the amusing fiction in the video -- I'll be happy to accept your apology.<br /><br />--<br />StanStan, the Half-Truth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260266801557543879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-33444700432748008282009-08-04T16:59:10.572-04:002009-08-04T16:59:10.572-04:00Here's some info about the Kenyan birth certif...Here's some info about the Kenyan birth certificate from Digg (of all places) <br /><br /><i>First, the hospital is Coast Provincial General Hospital (sometimes said to be Coast Province General Hospital), not Coast General Hospital.<br /><br />Second, Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.<br /><br />Third, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.<br /><br />Fourth, Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.<br /><br />Fifth, the number 47O44 -- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44 -- he is the 44th president.<br /><br />Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.<br /><br />Seventh, would a nation with a large number of Muslims actually say "Christian name" (as opposed to name) on the birth certificate?<br /><br />Eighth, his father (born in 1961) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.<br /><br />Ninth, it was called the "Central Nyanza District," not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970</i>.Glen20https://www.blogger.com/profile/09639357470728423171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-32536664676952129102009-08-04T14:51:06.283-04:002009-08-04T14:51:06.283-04:00So... You admit that the video is nonsense, but yo...So... You admit that the video is nonsense, but you maintain that Obama may nonetheless be the Antichrist?<br /><br />Is there no end to your credulity?<br /><br />Oh. I just saw your link to WND. I guess not.<br /><br />Here are the simple facts about Dan, then, for all to see:<br /><br />1. If an item comes along, no matter the source, which seems to agree with Dan's position or slant, he accepts it uncritically.<br /><br />2. If an item comes along, no matter the source, which seems to disagree with Dan's position or slant, he denies it uncritically.<br /><br />You're a bit of a retard, aren't you?<br /><br />--<br />StanStan, the Half-Truth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260266801557543879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-75355578572754199022009-08-04T14:23:42.887-04:002009-08-04T14:23:42.887-04:00Chimp,
I enjoyed that quote from Mr. Franklin. Th...Chimp,<br /><br />I enjoyed that quote from Mr. Franklin. Thanks for that and humbly I agree. <br /><br />That reminded me of a <a href="http://connect.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=cd1bcb78815ab6ac20b4" rel="nofollow">video</a> I just watched.<br /><br />The religion that will help a man out of a hole to "save" him is the same truth that will save you.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-17810752112007800272009-08-04T14:02:24.553-04:002009-08-04T14:02:24.553-04:00"One thing that will nullify this talk about ...<b>"One thing that will nullify this talk about the Antichrist is when Obama is thrown out of the Presidency for not being a citizen of the United States since there is, apparently, proof that he was born in Kenya and going to the courts now. </b><br /><br />Please tell me you're kidding. You aren't buying this load of hogwash from WND are you?! Please take the time of looking at other sources on the same topic and on the concerning validity of his birth certificate from Hawaii.<br /><br />~ACAtomic Chimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402712957793905056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-14198024544993371402009-08-04T13:57:00.301-04:002009-08-04T13:57:00.301-04:00Since you are posting quotes again, I thought you ...Since you are posting quotes again, I thought you might enjoy this one by Benjamin Franklin concerning religion. <br /><br /><b>Mr. franklin wrote to his friend Richard Price and and observed, “When a Religion is good, I conceive that it will support itself; and, when it cannot support itself, and God does not take care to support, so that its Professors are obliged to call for the help of the Civil Power, ‘tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.”</b><br /><br />Word is Bond!<br />~Atomic ChimpAtomic Chimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402712957793905056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-62079823653471909172009-08-04T13:42:20.359-04:002009-08-04T13:42:20.359-04:00One thing that will nullify this talk about the An...One thing that will nullify this talk about the Antichrist is when Obama is thrown out of the Presidency for not being a citizen of the United States since there is, apparently, proof that he was born in <a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105895" rel="nofollow">Kenya</a> and going to the courts now. <br /><br />I would think, if he is the Antichrist, he would at least follow basic rules to become a President. So you have that on your side of the discussion. Either way I get my way, so I feel good about the whole subject.<br /><br />This subject would invent, for the first time, a time machine. Could you imagine everything that man has done being rendered null and void? What a great day that will be. Liberty will prevail since after all "we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.com