tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post2581369182027937782..comments2024-03-19T01:46:23.275-04:00Comments on Debunking Atheists: Worldview Quote-PresumptuousnessD. A. N. http://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-43199332796769337072010-05-17T18:03:21.177-04:002010-05-17T18:03:21.177-04:00Oranges,
>>I didnt ask should we do the mos...Oranges,<br /><br />>>I didnt ask should we do the most idiotic things anyone can think of. You are being disingnuous if you think the real attempts to fight climate change involve population control or "charging to exhale". They generally involve trying to make it profitable for companies to switch to less polluting energy sources, etc. <br /><br />Do you even understand what crap and tax (cap and trade) is all about? Do you really want to give that much authority, to in a sense relinquish control, to the government? Scary times we live in. Anyone that believes in the Constitution should be outraged!<br /><br />"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."<br /><br />"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."<br /><br />"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."<br /><br />"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto"<br /><br />All from Thomas Jefferson<br /><br />"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."<br /><br />Benjamin FranklinD. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-28367349902307480672010-05-17T17:44:36.578-04:002010-05-17T17:44:36.578-04:00Wem and Storm,
>>Stormy, if you believe we&...Wem and Storm,<br /><br />>>Stormy, if you believe we've mischaracterized your position over at SMRT, you're more than welcome to register and comment on it. Heck, you're encouraged to do so.<br /><br />Yea, don't expect to see anyone debunked over at S.M.R.T. (Some, More, Ridiculous, Thoughts). Just a sewing circle of atheists, and non believers, complaining and griping about us Christians.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-42642373913025811282010-05-17T13:51:11.361-04:002010-05-17T13:51:11.361-04:00Dan said:
"The reason why peer reviews are f...Dan said:<br /><br />"<i>The reason why peer reviews are flawed is that there is money tied to them as Rhiggs just claimed.</i>"<br /><br /><br />Eh, I made no such claim Dan.....and you accuse <i>me</i> of quote-mining!<br /><br />Look, the peer-review process admittedly isn't perfect, but it's the best system we have to maintain scientific quality. Submitted work is assessed by experts in a given field, with severe repercussions for any unethical behaviour. <br /><br />Can anyone propose a better system? <br /><br />Even the creationist <a href="http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/about/editorialPolicies#peerReviewProcess" rel="nofollow">'journal'</a> you linked to a few posts ago copies the model of peer-review, so by your own standards you should be skeptical of what they publish too Dan.rhiggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246371823456833408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-60150563299639700522010-05-17T12:44:54.823-04:002010-05-17T12:44:54.823-04:00Stormy, if you believe we've mischaracterized ...Stormy, if you believe we've mischaracterized your position over at SMRT, you're more than welcome to register and comment on it. Heck, you're <b>encouraged</b> to do so.<br /><br />Unlike you, we wont change the text you write or block your comments. Unlike you, we strive to live up to the standards we claim to value. Some of us may use profanity, some of us may insult you - but none of us are going to exhibit the kind of projection you so eloquently display.<br /><br />If you value fairness, courage and the avoidance of pettiness, come discuss it. You're not going to though, Bob, because you are exactly the opposite of what you value.Whatevermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14458601080799278850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-9156520900849134442010-05-17T11:51:48.492-04:002010-05-17T11:51:48.492-04:00More on the little girl known as bob...
When I...More on the little girl known as bob...<br /><br /><i>When I've attempted discussions, I get the equivalent of, "Yeah, but you Christians are doo doo heads and Intelligent Design is not science because we said so!"</i><br />Please point us to the posts where this allegedly happened. And please, you’ve never attempted any discussions that I’m aware of. <br /><br /><i>When I say that I've had bad experiences with atheists, you play two cards. First, the personal victim card like you did.</i><br /><br />Even though I’ve personally been a victim of your identity theft fetish, I don’t hold it against you. It just makes you even more pathetic. <br /><br /><i>Second, atheists will want proof or say that I'm lying about my experiences. </i><br /><br />Although I ask you for proof, I don’t expect to get it. You are a known serial liar, as brother Dimensio would say. <br /><br /><i>OK, in 1974 in Mr. Sherman's Elective English class, Scott the atheist was screaming, "All Christians should be burned at the stake!" Also, he made an active choice of will (while we were still friends), that he would hate me from a certain moment on.</i><br /><br />What country did you go to school in bob the bitch? I’m a year older than your sorry ass and if anyone had screamed anything out loud, let alone “All Christians should be burned at the stake,” they would have been beaten and then expelled. So yeah... You’re a lying little bitch. And a false Christian. And maybe Scott was put off by your amorous advances? You are so far removed from reality you really should be taken off the streets, neutered and placed in a nice little kennel. <br /><br /><i>Naturally, I'm lying, I can't give better documentation for my experience there, or the rest of them through the years.</i><br /><br />Okay… A bit of honesty at last. Good for you bob. You admit that you’re a liar. Now you can ask forgiveness off all those you’ve wronged.<br /><br /><i>You've pulled some tricks, the others here (and other places I've been) pull tricks... When things go downhill, I call atheists on their nonsense. Then they go crying to other atheists in forums like "We are so friggin' smart because we disbelieve", misquote, ridicule, etc. </i><br /><br />If you hate wearesmrt.com so much, why do you lurk there constantly? The only thing that goes downhill is your popularity. It started at zero and declines every time you open your mouth. Speaking of misquoting. You don’t even bother. You just make stuff up and post it under someone’s name. You have the ethics of an illegal organ marketer.Doktor Benwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14665040319983612274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-13030718483975239322010-05-17T11:51:22.101-04:002010-05-17T11:51:22.101-04:00Drizzle-master Bob whined, lied, cursed and projec...Drizzle-master Bob whined, lied, cursed and projected….<br /><br /><i>You want debate when you deliberately take words out of context? Like I would have a chance at a rational discussion with you. </i><br /><br />Okay bitch, I mean bob. No I meant bitch. Please provide a few examples where you are taken out of context. You are correct. You cannot have a rational discussion with anyone because you are one of the most irrational little bitches on the planet. Besides... No one wants to have a discussion with you. No one likes you. But the funniest part is, you loathe yourself more than anything else. <br /><br /><i>Nope. My fuse has grown very short because of the atheist trolls that you seem to be unaware of, or unwilling to admit that they exist. </i><br /><br />That’s because they only exist in your mind. The only trolls on your shitty little ghost blog are the one’s you create. The one’s whose identities you steal and post under to make it look like anyone is paying attention to you. And bob… You don’t have a fuse. You’re a perpetual explosion of nonsense. <br /><br /><i>How about policing your own a bit and calling them on their crassness?</i><br /><br />And why don’t you pull your pin head out of your ass for one minute bob? I realize that it fits up there like a glove, but no one’s going to take you seriously until you permanently separate the two. You’ll also get the added benefit of non pestiferous breath which might help you with the ladies. At least until you speak…<br /><br /><i>I don't know if you're one of the trolls that's been hitting my Weblog or other areas, but the nature of the atheistic beast is clearly evident. Boy, does it irritate them when their personal attacks are deleted before they hit the comments section.</i><br /><br />“The nature of the atheist beast?” Oh bob, you really are funny without trying. Everything is a personal attack to you. How many atheists have even visited your shitty little ghost blog aside from me? I know you’re going to delete everything you disagree with and make stuff up in an effort not to look like a total loser. But you can only do that on your site and no one goes there anyway. You also don’t have to enable “team members only” commenting, since you have no team members. What a pathetic little bitch. <br /><br />You also routinely delete your own comments. Like the one where you threatened to come into PA to kick some butts. Like to see you try you little crybaby…Doktor Benwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14665040319983612274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-39350847491524764992010-05-17T10:33:23.189-04:002010-05-17T10:33:23.189-04:00Not that you have been a joy in other postings, bu...<i>Not that you have been a joy in other postings, but I spoke in generalities.</i><br /><br />Yes you do speak in generalities. And lies; such as when you talk about presenting evidence. All you do is whine and I know the reason. You hate your life. You have nothing to live for. You have the personality of a rancid fart. <br /><br />I also give you three thumbs down for your posting false statements using other peoples names, then wiping them from your site. <br /><br />You’re a real piece of a work Mr. False Christian. Even the Christians over at Ray’s are starting to call you false. They most likely think you’re Satan’s little bitch. They’d be right about the last half. You really are a little bitch.<br /><br /><i>And "once civil blog"? Yeah, I know the tactics you're employing. Anyway, I saw the profanity (of which I have reluctantly refrained), character attacks and other manipulations by atheists *before* I jumped in here. Frankly, the way you lot act, I'm surprised that Dan allows comments at all.</i><br /><br />What about your tactics bob? What about making up posts? What about lying? What about running from every single argument sent your way? What about the “troll” paranoia? What about your refusal to give any evidence and then the constant whining about atheists not accepting it? What about the projection of your hatred, bigotry and general insanity on all you oppose? <br /><br /><i>He has a ministry that he wants to perform. I don't, and I'm calling them as I see them.</i><br /><br />That’s because you’re a False Christian. If Satan were real, you would be blowing him regularly.Doktor Benwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14665040319983612274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-67393915557812216122010-05-17T07:32:44.622-04:002010-05-17T07:32:44.622-04:00Dan,
"Like tax people for having a child bec...Dan,<br /><br /><i>"Like tax people for having a child because they use up (x) amount of resources? Absolutely not!!"</i><br /><br />I asked shouldnt we try and do <b>something</b> about it. It's a reasonable question.<br /><br />I didnt ask should we do the most idiotic things anyone can think of. You are being disingnuous if you think the real attempts to fight climate change involve population control or "charging to exhale". They generally involve trying to make it profitable for companies to switch to less polluting energy sources, etc.Orangeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779361752011326130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-12791148399083950592010-05-16T18:32:32.634-04:002010-05-16T18:32:32.634-04:00Oranges,
>>If we are, by our actions, damag...Oranges,<br /><br />>>If we are, by our actions, damaging the planet, shouldnt we try and do something about it?<br /><br />Like tax people for having a child because they use up (x) amount of resources? Absolutely not!!<br /><br />Be careful of what you ask for, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq58zS4_jvM" rel="nofollow">that situation</a> sounds like a nightmare and a violation of our rights has humans.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-19015058231976426692010-05-16T13:55:33.787-04:002010-05-16T13:55:33.787-04:00Zilch:
"Where did you get that number?&...Zilch:<br /><br /> "Where did you get that number?"<br /> Half the time, the planet should be in a warming stage and half the time it should be in a cooling stage. If the human activity is an independent event it will act as a random data point. That it occurs during a warming stage has about an even chance.<br /> "The fact is, the Earth is getting warmer overall, even if it is cooling locally."<br /> Yes it is. But that is pretty much what we would expect if the warming is a natural phenomenon.<br /> "I, too, would much rather believe that global warming is a myth. But unfortunately, it is all too real."<br /> The warming is a given. Whether it is man-made or not is not.<br /> "and possibly the hottest since well before the last ice age."<br /> If you have global temperature measurements for the last 5,000 years, I'd like to see them. Given that we are in a warming trend, and that geological cycles run over rather long times, the most recent decade being the warmest in a more limited time frame is not very surprising. But data from the last 5,000 years could establish a trend.<br /> Oh, and that industy has a financial incentive to maintain the status quo comes as no surprise to me either. That doesn't preclude the possibility that the belief that temperatures are human-caused was a desired conclusion for some groups and that they picked whatever data seemed to support it.<br /> I am reminded of a product (in a fictional story) called "Reason."<br /> "Well, it was kind of a back-to-front program. It's funny how many of the best ideas are just an old idea back-to-front. You see there have already been several programs written that help you arrive at decisions by properly ordering and analyzing all the relevant facts so that they then point naturally to the right decision. The drawback with these is that the decision which all the properly ordered and analyzed facts point to is not necessarily the one you want."<br /> "Well, Gordon's great insight was to design a program which allowed you to specify in advance what decision you wanted it to reach and only then to give it all the facts. The program's task, which it was able to accomplish with consummate ease, was simply to construct a plausible series of logical-sounding steps to connect the premises with the conclusion"Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-23212420781165889412010-05-16T12:14:19.666-04:002010-05-16T12:14:19.666-04:00Historically, the global climate has been in a sta...<i>Historically, the global climate has been in a state of perpetual change. That would be with or without human activity.</i><br /><br />So far, so good, Pvblivs.<br /><br /><i>Under the assumption that the events are independent (the famed null hypothesis) the coincidence has about a 50 percent chance of occurring.</i><br /><br />Where did you get that number? We've just had the hottest decade worldwide since they started taking measurements, and possibly the hottest since well before the last ice age. The amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere has risen considerably in the last two hundred years, most dramatically in the last fifty years. I don't see how you get a fifty percent chance for this warming just happening to coincide with the recent high levels of greenhouse gasses.<br /><br /><i>Well, perhaps all regions of the planet (not just an average of the regions) are warming? Nope, some are warming, others are cooling.</i><br /><br />"Just an average" warming <i>is</i> what "global warming" means. The fact is, the Earth is getting warmer overall, even if it is cooling locally. Local cooling does not mean that global warming is not occurring.<br /><br /><i>The politically-minded like to talk about "climate change" to stave off the objections of the various places getting colder.</i><br /><br />What objections? Right now, it's unseasonably cold and rainy here in Vienna (possibly influenced by Eyjafjallajokull). But that doesn't mean that the Earth as a whole is not warming. Better indications of global trends are such indicators as rising ocean temperatures worldwide, the disappearance of glaciers (which I have seen myself), and rising sea levels.<br /><br />And as far as being "politically minded" goes: yes, politics, and of course religion and various other factors such as wishful thinking, can influence what one perceives to be the way things are in the world. And while there probably are people who believe in global warming (so-called "warm-mongers", which I must admit is funny) because it is a liberal position, on the whole, the influences are mostly in the other direction: there's a lot of money and inertia involved in not doing anything about global warming, and not a whole lot to be made (at least not quick and dirty) by doing something about it.<br /><br />Notwithstanding the popular idea that Al Gore invented AGW to line his pockets, the big money is all on the other side: oil companies, car companies, and big industry in general, would all see cuts in their profits if they were forced to reduce emissions.<br /><br />Unfortunately, it's also hard to get John Doe to do anything about it too, because it would mean lifestyle changes: less driving, less consumption of fruit and vegetables from overseas, less buying of junk from China that breaks and gets thrown out within a couple months...<br /><br />I, too, would much rather believe that global warming is a myth. But unfortunately, it is all too real.<br /><br />Stormbringer: why all the rancor? Sure, there are atheists who call names, make fun of theists, and some atheists really are breathtakingly stupid. Same goes for Christians and any other group of people you care to name. But if you jump into a discussion with both guns blazing, what kind of reception do you expect?<br /><br />I can easily believe you've had bad experiences with atheists. But just as with any other stereotype, if you want to have a respectful relationship with people, you have to go beyond stereotypes and deal with them one person at a time. I'm willing to treat you with respect if you do the same for me. And if you are ever in Vienna, or the SF Bay Area in the summer, lunch is on me. Drop me a line- my email address is in my Blogger profile.<br /><br />cheers from cool Austria, zilch.zilchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-22932594084703951682010-05-16T11:35:25.807-04:002010-05-16T11:35:25.807-04:00No Pvblivs, Stormbringer is nothing like Dani'...No Pvblivs, Stormbringer is nothing like Dani'El, IMHO (if that's who you were thinking of). Dan's latest fanboy is one of the nastier internet trolls I've encountered, regardless of religion.Whatevermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14458601080799278850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-63657429644447033872010-05-16T06:31:44.505-04:002010-05-16T06:31:44.505-04:00... although I don't think he is.... although I don't think he is.Orangeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779361752011326130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-82941348419113459212010-05-16T06:27:50.403-04:002010-05-16T06:27:50.403-04:00Yes Pvb, I had the same thought.Yes Pvb, I had the same thought.Orangeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779361752011326130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-89399125325428963102010-05-16T06:27:24.278-04:002010-05-16T06:27:24.278-04:00Dan,
come on. Of course I realise that CO2 is impo...Dan,<br />come on. Of course I realise that CO2 is important, naturally occurring, and noone is suggesting otherwise. Noone, least of all scientists.<br /><br />That does not mean we should not care if we are adding more CO2 into the atmosphere. We have to be responsible. If we are, by our actions, damaging the planet, shouldnt we try and do something about it?Orangeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779361752011326130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-20750460790324448592010-05-16T02:15:56.181-04:002010-05-16T02:15:56.181-04:00 Does "Stormbringer" remind anyone e... Does "Stormbringer" remind anyone else of someone who posted under the name "Daniel"? Or is it just me?Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-28771887540146856152010-05-16T01:16:41.302-04:002010-05-16T01:16:41.302-04:00 No, Dan, science is about making predictions ... No, Dan, <i>science</i> is about making predictions and testing them. If I have a watch, it is a true claim that someone made it. But it is not a <i>scientific</i> claim.Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-31335969284750941422010-05-16T00:40:19.479-04:002010-05-16T00:40:19.479-04:00Oranges,
>>Wow. You disappoint me Dan. I po...Oranges,<br /><br />>>Wow. You disappoint me Dan. I point out a simple fact, the definition of a "greenhouse" gas which is not a political word. And you claim I "condones and promotes mass extinction of people to stop them from exhaling, so we can save the planet?"<br /><br />I know what you meant but what you said is like the government banning salt when our tongues are designed to taste, *cough, salt. <br /><br />Do you want the governments to charge for exhaling to help "reduce" co2? Do you want to ban consumption of vegetables since the plants absorb co2? Or do you wish to have populations controls to reduce co2?<br /><br />Do you understand that co2 is very beneficial to the environment to indeed "greenhouse?" Without Co2 there would be no plants. I don't know about you but the greenhouses here in California looks pretty healthy to me. I can't stand it in them since its too humid and hot but the plants thrive on it. :7p<br /><br />New slogan:<br /><br />"Help save the planet, increase co2 to save the plants and forests."D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-19358725793841378782010-05-15T23:39:57.183-04:002010-05-15T23:39:57.183-04:00Pvb,
>>Intelligent design is not science be...Pvb,<br /><br />>>Intelligent design is not science because it makes no testable predictions.<br /><br />ID studies pattern in nature that are best explained as the results of intelligence. Many special or specific sciences already study such patterns and draw design inferences. Examples include forensic science and archaeology. It is scientifically legitimate to recognize the work of an intelligent agent, even if that agent is unknown, as it often the case in archaeology.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-21697242723424209732010-05-15T20:07:43.832-04:002010-05-15T20:07:43.832-04:00I was interested in the discussion about greenhous...I was interested in the discussion about greenhouse gases, and your assertion (or so it seemed) that because CO2 was naturally occurring we couldnt be adding to it with adverse consequences.<br /><br />If you want to discuss if we should be trying to prevent CO2 emissions or not, I would be interested to hear your opinion. If you just want to throw insults, knock yourself out.Orangeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779361752011326130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-62733377592250676132010-05-15T20:05:04.473-04:002010-05-15T20:05:04.473-04:00Stormbringer:
"When I've attempted ...Stormbringer:<br /><br /> "When I've attempted discussions, I get the equivalent of, 'Yeah, but you [c]hristians are doo doo heads and [i]ntelligent [d]esign is not science because we said so!'"<br /> Intelligent design is not science because it makes no testable predictions.<br /> "How about policing your own a bit and calling them on their crassness?"<br /> I have seen trolls from all stripes. Do you police christian trolls? (I'm guessing no; it would be an exercise in futility.) It would be just as futile for an atheist to try to police atheist trolls. All they share is a belief that there are no gods.Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-64336730862542600332010-05-15T19:47:18.670-04:002010-05-15T19:47:18.670-04:00Naturally dodging my comments about what YOU have,...Naturally dodging my comments about what YOU have, playing the victim "poor me, you have issues" game.<br /><br />By the way, atheist trolls have even given me grief for withdrawing from other discussions. Can't win with your lot. I'd really have problems if the opinions of atheists were even worth a point of view.Bob Sorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00800047570447946018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-15171059206442900762010-05-15T19:44:39.143-04:002010-05-15T19:44:39.143-04:00You seem to have all sorts of issues with all sort...You seem to have all sorts of issues with all sorts of people Stormbringer.<br /><br />I assure you none of them are me. Our only conversation has been here. And I have asked you - quite deliberately - pertinent questions about the topic at hand, and I just reveived insults.<br /><br />So you can lump me in with whatever group you think I belong to if you must, but you just come across as a troll when you dismiss people in that way, rather than actually respond to the specific words they use.Orangeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779361752011326130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-73499801082512914042010-05-15T19:26:28.200-04:002010-05-15T19:26:28.200-04:00You want debate when you deliberately take words o...You want debate when you deliberately take words out of context? Like I would have a chance at a rational discussion with you. Nope. My fuse has grown very short because of the atheist trolls that you seem to be unaware of, or unwilling to admit that they exist. How about policing your own a bit and calling them on their crassness?<br /><br />I don't know if you're one of the trolls that's been hitting my Weblog or other areas, but the nature of the atheistic beast is clearly evident. Boy, does it irritate them when their personal attacks are deleted before they hit the comments section.<br /><br />When I've attempted discussions, I get the equivalent of, "Yeah, but you Christians are doo doo heads and Intelligent Design is not science because we said so!"<br /><br />When I say that I've had bad experiences with atheists, you play two cards. First, the personal victim card like you did. Second, atheists will want proof or say that I'm lying about my experiences. OK, in 1974 in Mr. Sherman's Elective English class, Scott the atheist was screaming, "All Christians should be burned at the stake!" Also, he made an active choice of will (while we were still friends), that he would hate me from a certain moment on.<br /><br />Naturally, I'm lying, I can't give better documentation for my experience there, or the rest of them through the years.<br /><br />You've pulled some tricks, the others here (and other places I've been) pull tricks... When things go downhill, I call atheists on their nonsense. Then they go crying to other atheists in forums like "We are so friggin' smart because we disbelieve", misquote, ridicule, etc. <br /><br />And you think you deserve a reasoned debate? In a comments section?Bob Sorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00800047570447946018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-54701600274700018112010-05-15T19:23:17.629-04:002010-05-15T19:23:17.629-04:00Zilch:
"Right. It's just a massive ...Zilch:<br /><br /> "Right. It's just a massive coincidence that temps are rising at the very time in history that we are pumping gigatons of CO2 ... into the atmosphere."<br /> Historically, the global climate has been in a state of perpetual change. That would be with or without human activity. Under the assumption that the events are independent (the famed null hypothesis) the coincidence has about a 50 percent chance of occurring. Well, perhaps all regions of the planet (not just an average of the regions) are warming? Nope, some are warming, others are cooling. The politically-minded like to talk about "climate change" to stave off the objections of the various places getting colder.Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.com