tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post7075423296002666725..comments2024-03-19T01:46:23.275-04:00Comments on Debunking Atheists: Why Believe Jesus?D. A. N. http://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-79411246928220789732015-10-05T16:47:38.524-04:002015-10-05T16:47:38.524-04:00>>Hello, again, little Dan.
>>In your...>>Hello, again, little Dan.<br /><br />>>In your extremely CHILDISH mind-frame you cannot fathom...<br /><br />Oh, this is so rich you attempt to condescend, and then end the conversation with:<br /><br />>>so your mind is protected against seeing how silly and ARROGANT your words are! <br /><br />Either you need a mirror, or you said all of this into a mirror. Either way, we can all see the intellectual dishonesty to yourself, if no one else.<br /><br />Are you certain that God cannot reveal some things to us such that we can know them for certain, if so, how are you certain of this?Debunking Atheists https://www.blogger.com/profile/09738373112032154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-55421294288924511562015-10-05T16:35:55.592-04:002015-10-05T16:35:55.592-04:00So, you as a criminal, wishes to judge the Judge? ...So, you as a criminal, wishes to judge the Judge? How presumptuous of you.<br /><br />Knowledge is revealed by God, otherwise temporary opinion and belief. This is exposed with a simple question, how do you know your reasoning is valid without God or being viciously circular?<br /><br />I am sure you would grant that some people have invalid reasoning. People with invalid reasoning would not know their reasoning is invalid. So how do you know you're not one of them?<br /><br />Labeling things as rational or irrational, still appeals to objective standards that an atheistic worldview cannot account for, because your worldview cannot account for objective standards. I would ask you to try to be more consistent with your professed worldview, but rather I urge you to repent of it.Debunking Atheists https://www.blogger.com/profile/09738373112032154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-18093881235224244712015-10-05T15:53:32.841-04:002015-10-05T15:53:32.841-04:00Hello, again, little Dan.
Too much blather here t...Hello, again, little Dan.<br /><br />Too much blather here to debunk all of it!<br /><br />"I feel that you were struggling, but you have never known God yet. Your intellect may have reasoned to God, but you were not yet transformed to the new Saving Covenant. "<br /><br />How original!<br /><br />I don't know why I did not last timeadd something like AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY.<br /><br />Because I DID! Oh, sure maybe not the exact words you would choose, but the gist of it! <br /><br />In your extremely CHILDISH mind-frame you cannot fathom that your addiction to mental idols is something you can actually OUTGROW. Or should I say RECOVER from?<br /><br />You see that some have and you can only "decide" that they never were like you or made the same decision you did in the first place. Of course, other apologists for crap before you have said the same thing, so your mind is protected against seeing how silly and ARROGANT your words are! <br /><br />GROW UP!<br /><br />"Not at all, because God revealed that Islam and Mormonism are false religions. "<br /><br />Again, HOW ORIGINAL!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115213376182480424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-17323690262611126382015-10-05T15:38:15.307-04:002015-10-05T15:38:15.307-04:00No, you assumed wrongly. My appeal is to RATIONAL...No, you assumed wrongly. My appeal is to RATIONALITY.<br /><br />Does it make more sense that a people, the Israelites would react in ignorance to a baffling world and see a deity pulling the strings of what they could not understand, and took self-righteous attitudes toward any people who got in their way (One section of "The Brick Testament" illustrates them slaughtering a peaceful and gentle people, for example) and wrote literature about their triumphs and sins? (Sinning included not slaughtering ENOUGH people in some case!!!)<br /><br />Or does it make more sense that a personal god not only exists, but led his chosen few into all sorts of situations, being the only ultimate "string puller" including acting in bizarre and HURTFUL ways, when an omipotent, all-knowing being could have always found alternatives, and reneged on mercy for repentant people without recidivism on their part, (in at least one instance)...<br /><br />-- And then inspired a tome which could not even get geography right, let alone history, customs and laws of the Jews, and science?<br /><br />I, for some strange reason, choose RATIONALITY as a better choice.<br /><br />You (and I can only guess the reason) see IRRATIONALITY as far superior.<br /><br />Well, they say YMMV...<br /><br />That is to say, your "mileage" may vary from mine, eh?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115213376182480424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-73161665890575652972015-10-05T15:33:08.072-04:002015-10-05T15:33:08.072-04:00*spend*spendDebunking Atheists https://www.blogger.com/profile/09738373112032154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-9862512052796500812015-10-05T15:32:15.953-04:002015-10-05T15:32:15.953-04:00Bill,
>>Would it be more accurate (and inte...Bill,<br /><br />>>Would it be more accurate (and intellectually honest) to say that you don't like what Islam and Mormonism, and so on, have to say, rather than that they are objectively flawed?<br /><br />Not at all, because God revealed that Islam and Mormonism are false religions. <br /><br />Do you even concede that an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent being could reveal things to us, such that we can be certain of them?<br /><br />>>I accepted it gladly after pondering it for a while...Too bad I didn't know then what I knew now.<br /><br />Thanks for revealing your source of intellect and reasoning. You see, you cannot reason out of Christianity if Jesus Christ is Lord of your reasoning. <br /><br />I feel that you were struggling, but you have never known God yet. Your intellect may have reasoned to God, but you were not yet transformed to the new Saving Covenant. Unless there is a new Master in your life, you're still a slave to your current master of sin and autonomy. Remember Eve listened to what God said, and then what Satan said, and used her autonomy to decide what to do. It's the oldest sin in the book. <br /><br />I even posted about this years ago. <a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2008/07/doubt-itself-catalyst-for-atheism.html" rel="nofollow"> Doubt itself is the catalyst for Atheism</a><br /><br />God does not send people to Hell for being confused or denying what has been revealed to them, but for sin against the God that they do know. Hell's gates will be locked from the inside, as CS Lewis pointed out.<br /><br />Because you have railed against God, and not have God's will be done, i.e. repent and placing your entire TRUST in Jesus Christ for your Salvation with your heart, mind, and soul, then God will have your will be done and that is separation from Him. We call it despair.<br /><br />I hope you will come back to what you already know, in that gift of repentance. Psalms 51:17 So we can spend eternity together laughing about these times when we almost blew it. I will hope that is God's will.<br /><br />>>But please continue to enlighten us.<br /><br />God already has, I cannot offer anything more. (John 3:30; 1 Corinthians 2:2) You know God exists, it's just at the moment you're denying Him in your idolatrous unrighteousness. If I were you, I would spent my time begging for that precious gift of repentance, instead of lashing out at the ones already saved for eternity. <br /><br />"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." ~Jesus Christ, John 10:28Debunking Atheists https://www.blogger.com/profile/09738373112032154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-29148432950764961042015-10-05T14:52:55.156-04:002015-10-05T14:52:55.156-04:00Dan,
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! O...Dan,<br /><br />Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Once a scholar decide to ignore the supernatural aspects of the Trojan War story and focus on the natural elements. Taking the geography at face value he found all sorts of archaeological discoveries.<br /><br />But he didn't go far enough.<br /><br />If the geography was accurate then Hera, Aphrodite and Athena must be real too...<br /><br />-- by religious thinking, that is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115213376182480424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-61339775681046170762015-10-05T14:48:49.365-04:002015-10-05T14:48:49.365-04:00This was years ago conversation, today I would say...This was years ago conversation, today I would say that you're appealing to a moral law, standard, that an atheistic worldview cannot account for. You're assuming morality, and judging by that objective standard. <a href="http://bit.ly/assmorals" rel="nofollow">bit.ly/assmorals</a>Debunking Atheists https://www.blogger.com/profile/09738373112032154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-52541268358278081182015-10-05T14:42:22.215-04:002015-10-05T14:42:22.215-04:00Dan, you said,
"Again it would be more intel...Dan, you said,<br /><br />"Again it would be more intellectually honest if you said that the evidence did not convince you instead of saying 'You have exactly zero evidence'".<br /><br />Would it be more accurate (and intellectually honest) to say that you don't like what Islam and Mormonism, and so on, have to say, rather than that they are objectively flawed?<br /><br />"... Like it or not, God's Word is indeed evidence. Who cares if you accept it or not. I could be intellectually lazy, like yourself, and say that you have zero evidence that rapists and murderers even exist."<br /><br />HA! Too funny! I was NOT too "intellectually lazy" or defiant or stubborn or anything else to accept the gospel presented to me. I accepted it gladly after pondering it for a while.<br /><br />Too bad I didn't know then what I knew now. I could have avoided all the unnecessary pain due to the emotional clinging to the worst decision of my life and the YEARS of INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY that necessarily followed stubbornly clinging to it!<br /><br />"... zero evidence that rapists and murderers even exist." -- See, Dan, this kind of irrelevant verbal barb is exactly what your kind of "thinking" leads to.<br /> <br />See how silly you sound?<br /><br />But please continue to enlighten us.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115213376182480424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-25290920114894247892015-10-05T14:20:26.496-04:002015-10-05T14:20:26.496-04:00Dan, Dan, Dan...
Sigh.
You said:
"No punis...Dan, Dan, Dan...<br /><br />Sigh.<br /><br />You said:<br /><br />"No punishment for crimes at all? So, if a dude raped your sister for weeks and then murdered her, he should be just set free? That is your view justice? I think God has a more accurate view of justice then you do, that is for sure."<br /><br />Lot offered his two virgin daughters up to rapists, and yet was a man approved by your god.<br /><br />Your god, and not Moses, made the decision for the precious little virgin girls of the Midianites to be raped by the same men who slaughtered their fathers, uncles, older brothers, and so on.<br /><br />Women who had known a man were also slaughtered. Was this done in front of the precious little girl virgins?<br /><br />Oh, yes, let's not forget the remaining males were slaughtered, without any regard to age. I can just see some precious little girl virgin mourning that she had ever been mean or even harsh to her even more precious little baby brother,<br /><br />The chapters immediately preceding Numbers 31 show that this was your god's way of solving a problem caused by his own dubious decision, focusing on a small number of people.<br /><br />Of course certain sites enlighten us that the precious little girl virgins were not raped, but carried off for "household duties." <br /><br />I'm so relieved!<br /><br />"... I think God has a more accurate view of justice then you do, that is for sure."<br /><br />Seriously???Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115213376182480424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-61076913718458630312015-10-05T13:33:00.806-04:002015-10-05T13:33:00.806-04:00Stewie,
Pvblivs makes an excellent point about ...Stewie, <br /> <br />Pvblivs makes an excellent point about government and prisons, although I fear the situation in America is far, far worse.<br /><br />Essentially what we call "the government" is the rich and powerful. A certain segment actually p-r-o-f-i-t-s from prisons, and those among the rich and powerful who are not of this subset have every reason to refrain from exposing this obscenity.<br /><br />These wonderful folks are actually in favor of failing schools, since that leads to more desperation-driven crime, hence more imprisoned people, hence more money for yachts.<br /><br />- - -<br /><br />Oh, and BTW, the prophecy was for Jesus to follow the "type" of Jonah, three days and three nights. Depending on which Gospel you read it was really only either 2 and 1/2 days or 1 and 1/2 days.<br /><br />The Johannine gospel has Jesus on the cross when the others (Synoptics) say he was presenting the Last Supper.<br /><br />Parallel universes?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115213376182480424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-24319035381391928842014-08-20T20:12:24.349-04:002014-08-20T20:12:24.349-04:00Do you really believe God can be duped? Or are you...Do you really believe God can be duped? Or are you saying this into a mirror? Christ is the ONE who calls His to Him. You cannot seek Him, without Him. So do child molester get saved? Of course. Do you have any evidence of Buddy's salvation? I don't recall any at all, but I would rejoice in God's glory for saving wretches like him, and me. <br /><br />But you're still appealing to a moral law, or standard, to protest such things. That standard is still outside of your worldview to make such claims. You're still inconsistent.Debunking Atheists https://www.blogger.com/profile/09738373112032154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-34183241674073092082014-08-16T16:56:17.067-04:002014-08-16T16:56:17.067-04:00I have a great idea to expand your reasoning: Why...I have a great idea to expand your reasoning: Why don't you let child molesters and murderers a get out of hell free card by letting them accept Christ on their deathbeds. I understand that there are a lot of people looking forward to meeting Bundy in heaven because he is now a brother in Christ. I mean, surely this the bibles type of legal system.Moralatheist101https://www.blogger.com/profile/15558313510504480690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-31426299712834206112013-12-16T17:30:21.955-05:002013-12-16T17:30:21.955-05:00>>Give me one good reason why I should trust...>>Give me one good reason why I should trust the bible.<br /><br />Don't have to, you already know it's truth. <br /><br />>>What makes it more special than Paganism or Buddhism?<br /><br />Because it's not false, like those religions. False religions have a common denominator and that is there assault on the term "Justification." They are working toward their salvation. We are working as a result of our salvation. <br /><br />His works are what save us. In contrast, the religions of the world who deny justification seek to bring their "religious" efforts to God to "save" them. We have been made clean by the word. The false religions make themselves clean. Which is absurd. <br /><br />>>Why should I believe any of that dogma anyway when historians (even at a highschool level) can prove that religions branched off of each other throughout history just like languages?<br /><br />Tower of Babel, yes, we agree. <br /><br />>>Why should I trust any of that ridiculous dogma when it was all written by mankind?<br /><br />All? How are you certain of that? Strawman though, as Scripture was written by God, and merely penned by man. Do you even concede that an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent being could reveal things to us, such that we can be certain of them?<br /><br />>>Do some digging through caves in the eastern hemisphere and you'll find human-like fossils that look more and more ape-like as you dig into older layers.<br /><br />Simply because your position demands that the data fit your worldview,...<br /><br />"In fact, that cannot be evidence for God if he is a naturalist, or an atheist. Because according to him its not possible to have evidence for God. If he is in fact an atheist in terms of his views on reality, then all of these things must be reinterpreted so they are regimented, or will conform to, will comport with that man's naturalism, or atheism." ~ <a href="http://bit.ly/stillevidence" rel="nofollow">bit.ly/stillevidence</a><br /><br />>>You'd have to be in extreme denial or really stupid to deny that these fossils were in any way related when scientists have observed naturally-occurring mutations ...<br /><br />Is it possible that secular scientists get things wrong? If not, why not? <br /><br />>>and even farmers have in a way recreated evolution through artificial selection, (the only reason dogs exist) which can branch off the same way.<br /><br />We all agree that family of wolves can create various dog varieties of shapes, colored coats, and sizes. Just like people. But that is NOT what evolutionists are claiming, and you know it. You pond scum. :)<br /><br />>>Please find the verse in the bible that tells us about when God made Australopithecus, or Homo heidelbergensis.<br /><br />As I have said before, you cannot fault the Bible for modern speciation and classifications. argumentum ad ignorantiam.<br /><br /><br />D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-63461964701081944762013-12-16T17:16:51.631-05:002013-12-16T17:16:51.631-05:00>> You can't rely on these dieties that ...>> You can't rely on these dieties that our ancestors have created to get them through the night. <br /><br />You see, we can agree on things. You're right the <a href="bit.ly/RCChurch" rel="nofollow">RCC</a> is not the answer, and never was. <br /><br />>> You're literally more likely to kill yourself or a family member with that gun than an intruder anyway.<br /><br />From what moral standard are you appealing from? Subjectivity? D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-16279372096987482882013-12-16T17:13:06.622-05:002013-12-16T17:13:06.622-05:00>>I'm going to hell.
Yes, for the sins ...>>I'm going to hell.<br /><br />Yes, for the sins that you commit. Even though there are sins that are greater than other sins, all sin leads to eternal damnation. Is that "wrong"? If so, how do you KNOW it is? From what STANDARD are you appealing to? Before we address that you have made some assumptions of your point that you will have to defend before the claim is even valid. Like Razi Zacharias said that I highlight in one of <a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2010/08/sufficient-evidence.html" rel="nofollow">my posts</a>, you have just invoked a moral law, or standard in raising that claim that your worldview cannot account for. That is your presupposition of the claim, is it not? Otherwise, the claim self destructs. <br /><br />>>If you've done any of this and failed to recognize it, then it's settled, you're going to hell. <br /><br />I certainly agree that we all deserve it. But Christians are not perfect, we're just forgiven. You're assuming that you get to Heaven by your own merits, which is absolutely wrong. As <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WlRt8z5bHA" rel="nofollow">the song goes</a>,... <br /><br /><b>"I am the king of excuses<br />I've got one for every selfish thing I do<br /><br />What's going on inside of me?<br />I despise my own behavior<br />This only serves to confirm my suspicions<br />That I'm still a man in need of a Savior "</b><br /><br />>>Stone your daughter if she gets knocked up....<br /><br />Again, would that be "wrong"? Meister states, "By arguing for a belief in or knowledge of morality without providing a justification for morality, atheists confuse moral epistemology (moral knowledge) with moral ontology (foundation existence of morality)." ~<a href="http://bit.ly/assmorals" rel="nofollow">bit.ly/assmorals</a><br /><br />Plus, you are absolutely misunderstanding the difference <a href="http://bit.ly/Cncck" rel="nofollow">between the two covenants</a>. Sure, you will be in front of God under Adam's covenant, or the second Adam's (Jesus), it is certainly your choice which one. I begged to be selected and be born again in the covenant of Jesus Christ. You? D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-12363154831916007542013-12-13T00:56:34.840-05:002013-12-13T00:56:34.840-05:00Give me one good reason why I should trust the bib...Give me one good reason why I should trust the bible. What makes it more special than Paganism or Buddhism? Why should I believe any of that dogma anyway when historians (even at a highschool level) can prove that religions branched off of each other throughout history just like languages? Why should I trust any of that ridiculous dogma when it was all written by mankind? Do some digging through caves in the eastern hemisphere and you'll find human-like fossils that look more and more ape-like as you dig into older layers. You'd have to be in extreme denial or really stupid to deny that these fossils were in any way related when scientists have observed naturally-occurring mutations and even farmers have in a way recreated evolution through artificial selection, (the only reason dogs exist) which can branch off the same way. Please find the verse in the bible that tells us about when God made Australopithecus, or Homo heidelbergensis. Oh that's right, Christianity was invented way before we knew about any of that.Futacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044082198378064757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-65522173098384616882013-12-13T00:40:34.488-05:002013-12-13T00:40:34.488-05:00Making believe there will be justice in an imagina...Making believe there will be justice in an imaginary afterlife (funded by the Roman Empire as a new tactic in the fourth century to gain power) will not make it true. You can't rely on these dieties that our ancestors have created to get them through the night. We as a people have to make sure that justice is served. Believing in a better world doesn't get anything done when this world is in complete turmoil. The reality is that things won't happen unless you make them happen, and if you want more rapists to get caught, you should come up with an idea, send it to your representative, and if it doesn't work petition it or run for office yourself. But don't write an entire post about how you're fed up with atheists for not believing that the world (or existence in general) is perfectly formulated for fairness, when that itself is nothing more than a beautiful lie. You wouldn't believe in death if it wasn't all around us.<br /><br />By the way, no one's trying to take your guns, we just want the much-needed regulation of it to keep it out of abusive hands. You're literally more likely to kill yourself or a family member with that gun than an intruder anyway.<br /><br />Futacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044082198378064757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-346667014849895812013-12-13T00:25:23.478-05:002013-12-13T00:25:23.478-05:00Say I owned a charity service. Say I directly volu...Say I owned a charity service. Say I directly volunteered in Somalia every year. Say I spread the gospel to 500 people last month. Say I gave the vast majority of my salary to schools in low income neighborhoods. Say I went to church every sunday. Say I was a decon. Say I went on a blind date and told the woman I was 5'10 when I was really 5'9 and a half. I'm going to hell. No mal-intentions, nothing to do anyone any harm, no interfering with someone's life, just one little exaggeration and God is offended at me enough to throw me in hell. You say all sins are equal, no matter how small. Don't lie to yourself and say you can tell your parents you usually work out 6 days a week (I don't care if you work out 5). Don't even try to get a glance of Scarlet Johansen's sideboob, or wear a polyester shirt, don't tell your daughter she's pretty just to boost her self esteem, and the fect that you're rich enough to own a computer (as it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God), means you're probably richer than 95% of the plantet. If you've done any of this and failed to recognize it, then it's settled, you're going to hell. And even though God made her that way, Ellen DeGeneres is going with you for her sexual orientation. Don't try to change your words, because then you'd get yourself into more trouble with the big man for lying. And we all know what that means: an eternity in HELL. So stick with your words; afterall, you said them. And follow them to their fullest. Stone your daughter if she gets knocked up. Murder your son if he curses you. Cut off your wife's hand if she saves your ass from a mugging. And don't feel bad about it, for you are following God's word to its fullest.Futacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044082198378064757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-65850395934169622752011-11-30T14:29:37.615-05:002011-11-30T14:29:37.615-05:00>>Remember, there is/are no perfect LAWS
Y...>>Remember, there is/are no perfect LAWS <br /><br />You also understand you're imposing your view about laws onto me with that statement. How do you KNOW your reasoning about this, or anything, is valid? <br /><br />Back to the question: Man made you mean? Sure I can agree to that.<br /><br />God made perfect Laws though as everything God does is perfect, good, and righteous.<br /><br />Also, when you say stealing is wrong you're literally, imposing your views on someone. So the laws that mankind makes is off of a moral standard, or Law, that the Atheist cannot account for. Its an arbitrary position held. They have no "source" as to what is good, or wrong, without borrowing from my worldview to do so.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-20369388985047926802011-11-30T09:11:45.778-05:002011-11-30T09:11:45.778-05:00Dan +†+
Don't compare LAW on so-called "...Dan +†+<br /><br />Don't compare LAW on so-called " Gods Plan "<br /><br />It has a big difference.<br /><br />Remember, there is/are no perfect LAWSmarckhie perochohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15259840556498371641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-64154661324376941952010-06-23T12:21:18.227-04:002010-06-23T12:21:18.227-04:00Sure,
According to the books, Harry Potter lived ...Sure,<br /><br /><i>According to the books, Harry Potter lived in Godric's Hollow with his parents, James and Lily Potter, until the age of one when his parents were killed. <br /><br />Before he was eleven and during the summer holidays, Harry Potter lived at Number Four, Privet Drive, the home of his Aunt Petunia, Uncle Vernon, and their son Dudley. Privet Drive lies in the village of Little Whinging, which is located in the county of Surrey, near London in the southeast of England. <br /><br />The rest of the year, Harry stayed at his school, Hogwarts. Hogwarts is the place he actually considered to be home. Hogwarts is located somewhere in Scotland, but exact location is a secret and protected by magic. <br /><br />After Hogwarts, Harry moved into The House of Black, the home he inherited from his godfather, Sirius Black.</i><br /><br /><br />See Dan, just words in a book, which is apparently what you consider to be evidence.<br /><br />If you dismiss that the above is evidence of Harry Potter's residences being real, and yet still insist that heaven and hell are real, then you must have evidence that heaven and hell exist other than just 'words in a book'...<br /><br />Please present it.<br /><br />(Oh and I'm sure you agree that just because a book might be historically accurate in certain parts DOES NOT mean that the rest of the book is automatically true. If not, let me know. That would be fun!)rhiggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246371823456833408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-70552687341992245362010-06-23T11:05:16.540-04:002010-06-23T11:05:16.540-04:00Rhiggs,
>>Your view of 'evidence for he...Rhiggs,<br /><br />>>Your view of 'evidence for heaven' means there is also evidence for the respective residences of Zeus, Apollo and Harry Potter. <br /><br />Oh, those books show evidence of being truthful, as a historical narrative, and supernatural also? Please present that evidence, I would like to evaluate it for the claim's validity. You do understand God gave us the ability to reason and to use logic, right?D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-38236509684040500582010-06-23T05:08:59.829-04:002010-06-23T05:08:59.829-04:00OK silly example. I take back Zeus and Apollo as t...OK silly example. I take back Zeus and Apollo as they are reported to have lived at Mount Olympus, which is an actual place you can visit. <br /><br />Anyway, my mistake.<br /><br />But, it does nicely show the difference between real evidence (for Mt Olympus) and Dan's "I read it in a book" version of evidence (for heaven/hell). Its a big help when somewhere actually exists and you can go there and come back to tell people about it. <br /><br />So there is NO evidence for heaven or hell, just some words in a book. No actual visitations or photos. Unless of course Dan wants to get into an solipsistic debate about anything existing except the observer, which would necessarily mean he is also denying that God exists.rhiggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246371823456833408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-84175314854585402382010-06-23T04:53:36.246-04:002010-06-23T04:53:36.246-04:00Oh I see, I'm being intellectually lazy. So if...Oh I see, I'm being intellectually lazy. So if it says something in a book, that constitutes evidence. I see, thanks for educating me, oh wise unlazy one... <br /><br />Right, I'm off to book my summer holiday to Middle Earth. It must exist. It says so in a book.<br /><br />Oh and I also have evidence that God doesn't exist. Yep. I read it in a book.<br /><br />Evidence? Pffh. Your view of 'evidence for heaven' means there is also evidence for the respective residences of Zeus, Apollo and Harry Potter.rhiggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246371823456833408noreply@blogger.com