tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post3749008357690149418..comments2024-03-19T01:46:23.275-04:00Comments on Debunking Atheists: Independence Day IndeedD. A. N. http://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-28993200994116623752011-07-20T18:43:54.458-04:002011-07-20T18:43:54.458-04:00D.A.N,
>> Great! Then we can agree. It'...D.A.N, <br /><br />>> Great! Then we can agree. It's sufficient that multiple people believe in Christ and resisted for that reason. <br /><br />How do you know that? In that article mentioned people refused to fly with atheist banners, but it only mentioned ONE pilot who refused to fly due his religious beliefs (what religion he follows is not mentioned in the article and you assume he’s a christian just because most people in Texas are christians. Maybe he is a christian, maybe he isn’t. Nobody can’t know that for sure).<br /><br />>> Yes, as one Atheist waring bulletproof vest. It's sufficient that multiple people are Christians as it's sufficient that multiple people were Atheists. <br /><br />“I’ve been in this business for 20 years and I’ve never run into so much resistance on people flying,” Jaye said. “I’ve had <b>pilots who are actual atheists</b> who said, ‘Justin, I am an atheist and I won’t fly it because I can’t wear a bulletproof vest.’” (emphasis mine).<br /><br />It wasn’t just one atheist pilot like you claim D.A.N; it doesn’t say the exact quantity but it mentions <b>pilots who are actual atheists</b>, you know…in the plural.<br /><br />>> Is this a story of atheist pilots that refused to fly Christian banners? No, its a story of people refusing to fly the Atheist's "agenda" flags, for whatever reason.<br /><br /><b>Is not what you claimed here: </b> “I applaud these pilots for knowing their rights and for having the courage to stand for what they believe in.”;<br /><b>and here: </b> “The data is strong that some actually were Christians that refused to do the work of the Atheists.” (the article mentioned ONE pilot refused to fly with atheist banners due his faith and yet we can’t know for sure what his religious beliefs were since the article didn’t mention it)<br /><b>and also here </b> “It's sufficient that multiple people believe in Christ and resisted for that reason.bellecheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14393655793944782045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-74749316676848680062011-07-20T14:57:21.799-04:002011-07-20T14:57:21.799-04:00On the American Atheists own website some comments...On the American Atheists own website some comments were:<br /><br />"The first statement can easily be read to imply "Atheism is Patriotic, Religion is Not," by a biased viewer. Point of fact: biased viewers comprise most of the intended audience. Why put it up in the first place?"<br /><br />"'God-LESS America' makes it sound like we want to kick religion out of America entirely. Maybe you do, but I only want to eat my piece of the pie in [peace]."<br /><br />"I don't want Jehovah's Witnesses or evangelicals at my door, and I don't want you either. You're all just annoying. Start minding your own business and leave people alone."<br /><br />WND made a great point:<br /><br />The American Atheists cites Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists as evidence that the Founding Fathers intended to keep religion out of government. But they don't mention the opening prayer of the very first Continental Congress in 1774.<br /><br />That includes, in part:<br /><br />"O Lord our Heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings, and Lord of lords, who dost from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and reignest with power supreme and uncontrolled over all the Kingdoms, Empires and Governments; look down in mercy, we beseech Thee, on these our American States, who have fled to Thee from the rod of the oppressor and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on Thee. To Thee have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support, which Thou alone canst give. Take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in Council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their Cause and if they persist in their sanguinary purposes, of own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved hands in the day of battle! Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the councils of this honorable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation. That the scene of blood may be speedily closed; that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety, prevail and flourish amongst the people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son and our Savior. Amen."D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-36732198232723355782011-07-20T14:33:14.454-04:002011-07-20T14:33:14.454-04:00Reynold,
>>I don't have to; I don't...Reynold,<br /><br />>>I don't have to; I don't believe I said that they ALL were; it's sufficient that multiple people do.<br /><br />Great! Then we can agree. It's sufficient that multiple people believe in Christ and resisted for that reason. Unless you are claiming some relativist fallacy.<br /><br />>>Didn't the article only mention ONE christian?<br /><br />Yes, as one Atheist waring bulletproof vest. It's sufficient that multiple people are Christians as it's sufficient that multiple people were Atheists. Moving on.<br /><br />>>Besides, I know people who live there who have told me of the "kind" of christians that are there, too.<br /><br />Hasty generalization and Fallacy of division. Nice. There are some real wholesome people living in Texas. You would be surprised how <i>kind</i> they are in general. <br /><br />>>You made your case off of ONE person from the article<br /><br />Duh, so did you! Unless your claiming that quote "Justin, <b>I</b> am an atheist and <b>I</b> won’t fly it because <b>I</b> can’t wear a bulletproof vest.’" (emphasis mine) was said in unison by multiple people. *pshaw <br /><br />>>Remember, the article was talking about the company's atheist pilots also.<br /><br />Also? Also to what? Christians? Well we agree then. Is this a story of atheist pilots that refused to fly Christian banners? No, its a story of people refusing to fly the Atheist's "agenda" flags, for whatever reason. If its your claim that they were ALL frightened Atheists then come out with the evidence. Otherwise, you MUST concede that SOME were Christians refusing to fly the Atheists "agenda" flags that went against their own conscience. Even you <b>admit</b> to the "kind" of Christians that are there. I was applauding those people in general.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-89411050462490756352011-07-20T05:15:35.394-04:002011-07-20T05:15:35.394-04:00Dan
You cannot show evidence with certainty that a...<b>Dan</b><br /><i>You cannot show evidence with certainty that all remaining 66 people were Atheists afraid and wearing bullet proof vests.</i><br />I don't have to; I don't believe I said that they ALL were; it's sufficient that multiple people do.<br /><br />Let's see: <i>Good grief. You "applaud" those pilots for "having courage" to not fly the banners because some were too afraid of getting death threats from you fundy fucks?</i><br /><br /><i>Jaye said while some feared for their lives, others feared for their marriages. He had one pilot say his wife would divorce him if he made the flight.</i><br /><br /><br /><b>Dan</b><br /><i>The data is strong that some actually were Christians that refused to do the work of the Atheists.</i><br />Didn't the article only mention ONE christian?<br /><br /><i>Its TEXAS dude! Have you EVER been there? I lived there for 12 years, its mostly Christian. To say otherwise is intellectually dishonest.</i><br />I never did say otherwise, but the article mentioned ONE xian pilot and more than one atheist pilots.<br /><br />Besides, I know people who live there who have told me of the "kind" of christians that are there, too. That bolsters my case for their being afraid.<br /><br /><i>I will concede to some assumptions at the least, but that is not lying. Your overreaction to say it was is obvious.</i><br />You made your case off of ONE person from the article. My case was made from more than one person. Yet YOU were the one who completely ignored the fact that some of those people were afraid of those xian good ol' boys while only one guy in the article did it for his "faith". <br /><br />Remember, the article was talking about the company's atheist pilots also.<br /><br />Now to this:<br /><i></i><br />Nice <b>general</b> statement there. One could just as easily say that your laws are based on the Hamurrabi code! <br /><br />Let me give you an example: "Freedom of religion" vs. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me".<br /><br />Here, the constitution directly contradicts the bible, as opposed to being based on the bible.<br /><br />I'll look forward to your justifications coming later.Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-62329944239861492662011-07-16T13:28:28.569-04:002011-07-16T13:28:28.569-04:00Pvb,
Yes, I concede to that point of yours. Its s...Pvb,<br /><br />Yes, I concede to that point of yours. Its sad though. That gives Casey Anthony grounds to sue the state of Florida for their accusations and destroying her "good" name. I don't think that was what the founding fathers had in mind though. Sad.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-9934156564977693222011-07-16T11:23:42.430-04:002011-07-16T11:23:42.430-04:00Dan:
You seem to be confused, which is nothi...Dan:<br /><br /> You seem to be confused, which is nothing new. Free speech means that you can speak your mind without the threat of being thrown in jail just because the government doesn't like your opinion. It does not, however, grant you license to lie about people to incite harm to their person or make it harder for them to earn a living. If you do that, even in the U.S. they can sue you based on damage that you did to them. But you still won't go to jail.Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-47829084991976202222011-07-14T14:33:12.019-04:002011-07-14T14:33:12.019-04:00D.A.N,
>> You cannot show evidence with cer...D.A.N,<br /><br />>> You cannot show evidence with certainty that all remaining 66 people were Atheists afraid and wearing bullet proof vests. The data is strong that some actually were Christians that refused to do the work of the Atheists. Its TEXAS dude! Have you EVER been there? I lived there for 12 years, its mostly Christian. To say otherwise is intellectually dishonest. I will concede to some assumptions at the least, but that is not lying. Your overreaction to say it was is obvious.<br /><br />The same way you can’t prove all those 66 pilots were christians who were brave enough to stand up for their faith by refusing to fly with atheist banners as you claimed was the true reason.<br /><br />The article mentioned just <b>ONE</b> pilot who refused to fly with atheist banners for religious beliefs, but since it doesn’t say what religion he follows, he could be a christian, a jew, a muslin, etc.<br /> <br /><b> The statistics on religion in Texas:</b> <br />Roman Catholic 28%; Baptist 21%; No religion 11% ; Methodist 8% ; Christian – Others 7% ; Lutheran 3%; Pentecostal 3%; Presbyterian 2%; Non-denominational 2%; Mormon 2%; Episcopalian 1%; Islam 1%; Jehovah's Witnesses 1%; Assemblies of God 1% ; Church of God 1%; Other 2%.<br /><br />In 2000, most adherence belong to the Roman Catholic Church with 4,368,969; the Southern Baptist Convention with 3,519,459; and the United Methodist Church with 1,022,342.<br /><br />The Jewish population stands at around 128,000 and about 146,000 adherents of non-Abrahamic religions such as Hinduism and Sikhism live in Texas.<br /><br />Ok, most of the inhabitants in Texas are christians, but you can’t assume – without evidence – those 66 pilots were christians. Maybe some of them were jews, muslins, hindus or sikhs.<br /><br />>> Its obvious that love thy neighbor, the backbone of our laws, is a very Christian thingy. To judge righteously also.<br /><br />No, it’s not. It doesn’t need to be a christian in order to love and respect other people. It doesn’t need to be a christian in order to treat others like you want to be treated. Those rules exist way before christianity came along; since mankind began to live in society people realized in order to live in harmony with their neighbors they had to follow some rules like respecting one another, cooperating with each other, treating others like they wanted to be treated, etc. We don’t need a religious book to tell us all that (specially your bible which is a walking contradiction when is about <i> “loving thy neighbor”</i>, <i> “thou shall not kill </i>, <i> “thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor </i>, etc)Mhichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05234213928965873985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-85177190461459816222011-07-14T13:24:38.638-04:002011-07-14T13:24:38.638-04:00Okay Dan, you said that you need some time to make...Okay Dan, you said that you need some time to make a response to Reynold, which is pretty reasonable, but here's something to consider while you come up with a response. Isn't love supposed to be freely given, if someone(the government) is enforcing love of neighbor than you don't have ability choose not to love, and then its not really love at all. If that's the only basis for the rights in your constitution, they are unenforceable. <br /><br />Jesus also commanded people to give money to the poor, but in previous posts you've made it clear you are against socialism, government enforced charity. So I guess the question is, exactly which of the things Jesus said, should be enforced by the government, and how can you distinguish them from those that shouldn't.MaxFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17914750241106724861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-52973135119353063082011-07-14T11:14:23.224-04:002011-07-14T11:14:23.224-04:00Reynold,
>>So, when you claimed in plural, ...Reynold,<br /><br />>>So, when you claimed in plural, that it was their "courage" to stand up for what "they" believed in, you were lying.<br /><br />You cannot show evidence with certainty that all remaining 66 people were Atheists afraid and wearing bullet proof vests. The data is strong that <i>some</i> actually were Christians that refused to do the work of the Atheists. Its TEXAS dude! Have you EVER been there? I lived there for 12 years, its mostly Christian. To say otherwise is intellectually dishonest. I will concede to some assumptions at the least, but that is not lying. Your overreaction to say it was is obvious.<br /><br />>> It was asked more than once that you list the corresponding bible verses with the american Constitutional rights that you have.<br /><br />Its obvious that love thy neighbor, the backbone of our laws, is a very Christian thingy. To judge righteously also. I might post about this in the future though. Let me have time to gather the data as I do not have them at this moment, readily available, in this old brain of mine. Patience<br /><br />Like I said though, you're always welcome to come over on Tuesday for Bible study about this red herring of yours. :7)D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-56650765490543628892011-07-14T03:40:28.204-04:002011-07-14T03:40:28.204-04:00You said that I don't even know the meaning of...You <a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2011/06/hurt-feelings.html?showComment=1310277467572#c352960300388294346" rel="nofollow">said</a> that I don't even know the meaning of the word lie. No matter that you've been caught over and over again. So, I'll just repeat some here.<br /><br />You claim (in plural) that it was the pilot's "courage" to "stand for what they believe in" yet the article only had ONE guy who had the motive. So, when you claimed in plural, that it was their "courage" to stand up for what "they" believed in, you were lying. As was pointed out to you in the first comment here.<br /><br />You also claim that we get our rights from your god. <a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2011/07/independence-day-indeed.html?showComment=1310331019822#c5197116524197234670" rel="nofollow">It was asked</a> more than once that you list the corresponding bible verses with the american Constitutional rights that you have.Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-35397108934257512542011-07-12T20:16:15.583-04:002011-07-12T20:16:15.583-04:00>>It's clear that Dan's not interest...>>It's clear that Dan's not interested in sincere conversation. Please do what I do: Ignore what he says<br /><br />Said the man who just a few minutes ago <a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2011/07/im-over-ledge.html?showComment=1310509053920#c9211505075415537840" rel="nofollow">said</a>: <br /><br />>>Lube's in the bathroom cabinet, Dan. <br /><br />Sure Wem. Who are you trying to convince, me or you?D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-87849513063600719502011-07-12T19:24:06.744-04:002011-07-12T19:24:06.744-04:00Alex,
>>It's truly pathetic, and makes ...Alex,<br /><br />>>It's truly pathetic, and makes your religion look extremely foolish. <br /><br />Wait a minute. Let's just say that you are right and I am doing ALL those things that you claim. You end it with this? A fallacious argument called a hasty generalization? Even if I did those things, your attempt to throw the baby (Jesus?) with the bathwater as a comfort to deny Christ. That sir makes you an anti-Christ not a non theist or an Atheist. (1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3)<br /><br />Speaking of conspiracy theory. I think this just became my newest post. Hold that thought.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-91772522216898068312011-07-12T18:19:03.834-04:002011-07-12T18:19:03.834-04:00It's clear that Dan's not interested in si...It's clear that Dan's not interested in sincere conversation. Please do what I do:<br /><br />Ignore what he says.Whatevermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14458601080799278850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-78639419875223844842011-07-12T17:41:01.157-04:002011-07-12T17:41:01.157-04:00DAN, you and your ilk are no better than any other...DAN, you and your ilk are no better than any other conspiracy theorists - you make ludicrous, evidence free assertions, and claim that those who disagree are trying to 'silence' you, whilst making ridiculous threats *against* those how point out how bonkers your claims are.<br /><br />It's truly pathetic, and makes your religion look extremely foolish.Alex Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09083943878149587831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-50509719811627626322011-07-12T10:48:53.197-04:002011-07-12T10:48:53.197-04:00"Times are changing when the Constitution is ..."Times are changing when the Constitution is no longer valid though." <br /><br />So when exactly was the constitution valid? If you actually read that link I posted, you would see that defamation laws have been in force longer than the constitution. If you hold the position that defamation laws violate free speech, then free speech never existed in America. This isn't a recent attack on the constitution its been law for a long time, and its shocking you weren't aware of it until I posted it.MaxFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17914750241106724861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-44766198518278924402011-07-12T05:58:25.195-04:002011-07-12T05:58:25.195-04:00D.A.N. said...
freddies_dead,
>>Where exac...D.A.N. said...<br /><br /><i>freddies_dead,</i><br /><br />>>Where exactly does it grant you this right Dan?<br /><br /><i>You are confusing the Brazilian Constitution with ours.</i><br /><br />I suppose it's possible, I know very little of the Brazilian constitution.<br /><br /><i>In Brazil its against the law to offend someone. apparently they are allowed to sue anyone that does so.</i><br /><br />Are you sure about that? Can you point me to the relevant source for this law?<br /><br /><i>Just ask Michelle.</i><br /><br />But I asked you...<br /><br /><i>Here, its almost mandatory. Crosses, Commandments, and Creator are very offensive to the lost apparently. Its understandable.<br /><br />:7)</i><br /><br />Oh, it was all meant to be a joke ... it would have been easier to just admit you don't have that right.freddies_deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688196534481642740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-45526616095278209442011-07-12T00:20:14.196-04:002011-07-12T00:20:14.196-04:00Quasar,
Brazil is the biggest catholic country in...Quasar,<br /><br />Brazil is the biggest catholic country in the world, but the numbers of evangelicals are increasing for the last few years.<br /><br />As I pointed out to D.A.N, the reason violent crimes rates are increasing have nothing to do with atheism (or religion for that matter); it has to do with the drug traficking that is also linked with piracy, prostitution, guns trafficking, robberies, kidnapping, homicides, etc. <br /><br />The other reason that contributes for the increase of violence in my country is impunity. The legal system in Brazil take too easy on people in some cases, specially when they are underaged or are first-time offenders.<br /><br />There are some laws in US I agree with: judging a minor as an adult depending on the severity of the crime he committed; punishing in more severe way first-time offenders and stop getting people off the hook because they have money and/or are famous celebrities. And - of course - punishing properly corrupted politicians, specially those involved in drug traficking, prostitution schemes, etc.Mhichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05234213928965873985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-40535614824337889122011-07-11T23:59:31.850-04:002011-07-11T23:59:31.850-04:00It appears I may have missed a cue and taken serio...It appears I may have missed a cue and taken seriously that which was not meant to be taken seriously. <br /><br />A tip, though, Dan: if you're going to use satire, either use views you are known not to hold, or else exaggerate it beyond what is easily believable. As it was, you expressed a view that was very easily to reconcile with your existing belief structure (because you do, in fact, hold the view that atheists are morally unbound heathens etc. etc), in a way that did not make it at all clear you were exaggerating or expressing a view at odds with your own.Quasarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09398018171200335379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-76730133231261437132011-07-11T22:19:39.569-04:002011-07-11T22:19:39.569-04:00D.A.N,
>> Me: The same people – that acco...D.A.N, <br /><br />>> <b> Me: The same people – that according to you – are role models for morality are the ones taking advantage of gullible people by demanding them to pay 30% of their salary to “Jesus”; are the ones being accused by the FBI for entering USA with more 50.000 dollars undeclared hidden in the bible besides being accused in Brazil for money laundry and fraudulent misrepresentation; are the ones teaching pastors during a barbecue in a fancy house how to take as money as they can from the followers during evangelical cults with the excuse “Jesus is not going to cure them” if they don’t give their money...</b><br /><br /><b> D.A.N: Wow that was slanderous, I will be contacting Brazilian authorities. Shame on you. </b><br /><br />It’s not slander. If you doubt me, look for the name <b>Bispa Sônia Hernandes</b> and you will see. The FBI arrested her and her husband because they denied having more than US$ 10.000,00 dollars with them (that is the maximum amount of money someone can declare before entering US) when in fact Bispa Sônia decided to use your holy dearest book as a wallet by hiding US$56.000, 00 in it so she wouldn’t have to declare the money in Customs. <br /><br />In Brazil Bispa Sônia, her husband and more three people from her church had their prison declared by the Public Ministry of Sao Paulo because they didn’t go to court in any of the audiences as demanded by the judge through a subpoena to face the charges of money laundry and fraudulent misrepresentations against them. <br /><br />If you know a little of portuguese go on You tube and look for <b>Silas Malafaia</b> and it will have a video of him increasing the value of the tithe of 10% to 30% and telling people if they don’t have money to pay the church they ask relatives, friends, whoever for a loan in order to pay the church.<br /><br />Look on Youtube for <b>Bispo Edir Macedo</b>. There will be a video there when he teaches other pastors from his church how to convince gullible people to giver their hard earned money to “Jesus”.<br /><br />>> <b> So look out Atheists who wish to attack our God and His followers. You may end up in jail under defamation laws. Sad really.</b><br /><br />So we are “attacking god and his followers” by simply not believing in your god? You consider we are under defamation laws by simply putting our faces out there and creating awareness towards atheism? Really? <br /><br />We are not attacking your religion by simply putting atheist billboards, atheist ads and banners. We are only trying to create awareness towards atheism and to have social acceptance. Is that wrong now? We are exercising the right guaranteed by the constitution to spread our ideas. We are not doing any defamation against anyone who is religious by simply saying “people can be good without god” or “religion doesn’t define character”. You can ask any lawyer if atheists exercising their freedom of speech by putting awareness messages are considered defamation against “god” and his followers. <br /><br />PS1: you didn’t bring me any evidence, statistics, studies, etc, that proves without a shadow of doubt atheists are responsible for all the violent crimes in Brazil. If you do have, show it to me. If you don’t, shut up. And you are officially committing the crime of slander and defamation against brazilian atheists. But since I’m a good person and I don’t hold any grudge towards you, I won’t sue you. ; )<br /><br />PS2: Dude, you’ve been watching too much of Fox “News”Mhichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05234213928965873985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-12231262405629120872011-07-11T21:20:55.177-04:002011-07-11T21:20:55.177-04:00MaxFF,
I did read the link you provided.
>>...MaxFF,<br /><br />I did read the link you provided.<br /><br />>>or you admit America does not have free speech.<br /><br />Well I concede to this point. We are not free by any stretch. <br /><br />Now to Quasar,<br /><br />The whole "Atheists are responsible for the most violent crimes in Brazil." was to make a point that I can say anything in my country but see now that just may not be the case. Its not how I actually feel, i was making a point. Times are changing when the Constitution is no longer valid though. <br /><br />So look out Atheists who wish to attack our God and His followers. You may end up in jail under defamation laws. Sad really.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-85521796489369360442011-07-11T19:42:33.364-04:002011-07-11T19:42:33.364-04:00"I hope you're getting my point by now.&q...<i>"I hope you're getting my point by now."</i><br /><br />Oh yes.<br /><br />I am indeed. Very much so.<br /><br />So I'm going to pick up my lying, weak, cowardly ass, pack up my totally skewed data from such obviously pro-atheist sites as wikipedia and google image search, and go off to live the rest of my life as best I can, after which I will get my deserved due reward and be tortured in hell forever by your god.<br /><br />I'm very disappointed, Dan. "Reality doesn't matter because [insult insult hateful insult] I hope you get my point". You're literally denying truth because it conflicts with your vitriolic hatred of a minority group of which I am a member. That's not healthy.<br /><br />I hate to leave you to such a horrible, sadistic delusion, but it's clear that at this point any attempt by myself to defend my beliefs is interpreted by you as an attack on yours. And so, without any better option, I leave.<br /><br />Best of luck getting over your overwhelming hatred of atheists, Dan.<br />QuQuasarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09398018171200335379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-75575310777809985952011-07-11T18:15:06.659-04:002011-07-11T18:15:06.659-04:00MaxFF,
>>That is probably the funniest thin...MaxFF,<br /><br />>>That is probably the funniest thing in in the whole thread.<br /><br />Did you notice the link in "That is because America is blessed."?<br /><br />>>If its the contest for greatest debt than I guess America really is the greatest, by a huge margin.<br /><br />See? You get it. We do all things great! We are pioneers.<br /><br />>>Enjoy your rapidly deteriorating wealth and freedom, no need to concern yourself with little things like, the future, or Chinese debt collectors, or overburdened military.<br /><br />Why do you think we are building our military so rapidly? Because of those Chinese debt collectors.<br /><br />You're all just mad that we built up these repackaged sub prime mortgage securities, and then resold them to these unsuspecting countries and burned the globe for huge buckets of cash. America is the best. We have this 'humanist' thingy locked down. I am sure you would agree. Go humans! America rules!D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-24625841001562726472011-07-11T18:03:03.534-04:002011-07-11T18:03:03.534-04:00Quasar,
It doesn't matter what the stats say ...Quasar,<br /><br />It doesn't matter what the stats say because all Atheists are liars, weak, and cowards that say that they are afraid of big bad Christians and wear bullet proof vests and such. You can cry about it all you want. You can provide skewed data if you wish. That will never change the fact that all Atheists are cowards and deserve their due reward. <br /><br />I hope you're getting my point by now.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-55752382021453057952011-07-11T17:56:45.715-04:002011-07-11T17:56:45.715-04:00Michelle,
>>Because if I did I would be jus...Michelle,<br /><br />>>Because if I did I would be just like you: an immoral, intolerant and a bigot person who thinks freedom of speech is only valid for those who think like you. <br /><br />Wait THAT was slanderous, to me. I will be contacting Brazilian authorities. Tisk, tisk. <br /><br />Yet you are fully OK with ATAH to squelch the opinion of a man. Your hypocrisy is rich. I am done with you.D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771612431511732960.post-78044848835592269522011-07-11T17:54:09.075-04:002011-07-11T17:54:09.075-04:00Quasar,
>>It must have been quite painful.
...Quasar,<br /><br />>>It must have been quite painful.<br /><br />It was actually. The point is that being a liar is illegal in Brazil. Not here. <br /><br />>>Put up or shut up. I've shown you my stats, where's yours? <br /><br />Under who's authority does it say that there MUST be stats? Yours?D. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.com