My boy just pointed me to this video.
He didn't know this at the time but I also just watched last night, a documentary called "Trading on Thin Air". Free on Hulu. The content was good, movie making ability, meh. But it spoke of the new "cap and trade" where someone 'in power' will issue "carbon credits" and this will be the end as we know it. It will be another fiat currency scheme, like the one we are dealing with today. A scheme watched over by the same people that failed us during THIS economic fiasco of fraud and bail outs to the "too big to fail" banks.
We need to wake up and not allow this to happen to our country. We will all be homeless soon if we do not do something drastic. They want you to think that this type of talk is "crazy" but its not. Its actually what is going on, and the reason #1 why I am, and have been, supporting Ron Paul. The ONLY one speaking of actually ending the "Federal" Reserve [private] Bank. We are smarter then this. God says "Vengeance is mine" and it will play out with the very few choking off the many in Fiat Currency schemes. That time will be soon.
"so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast" ~Revelation 13:11-18
"And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore, cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls." ~Revelation 18:11-13
Let us not watch these next chilling verses play out.
"For in a single hour all this wealth has been laid waste.
And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off 18and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning,
'What city was like the great city?'
And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out,
'Alas, alas, for the great city
where all who had ships at sea
grew rich by her wealth!'
For in a single hour she has been laid waste." ~Revelation 18:17-19
This YouTube video points to this exact scenario in Revelation 18:17-19. I post this for one purpose, and one purpose alone. When we actually do see all of this play out, you will remember this little old post that I called "Fiat Currency" and understand what was being said all along. Maybe then, just maybe, you will understand the plea by me and Repent. God WILL right this wrong regardless. Let's glorify Him for doing so, BEFORE we see it all play out, when you are all slaves to the banks. Oops, you already are.
Homeownership in the United States is a farce, we are merely renters. Stop paying your taxes and you will see who the real homeowner is.
BTW, the soldiers that will enforce all of this for the few, will be paid handsomely for doing so. Resist being one of those highly paid soldiers, because without such men, this will never play out successfully. If you do become one of those soldiers, be an Oath Keeper.
Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruning hooks into spears; let the weak say, "I am a warrior." ~Joel 3:10
Enter the, common to the Atheists, 'Normalcy bias'.
I must just add this as an after thought
bit.ly/FiatCurrency
>>But it spoke of the new "cap and trade" where someone 'in power' will issue "carbon credits" and this will be the end as we know it.
ReplyDeleteIt is either this, or let companies pump out wastes and accelerate our decline into an ecological Armageddon.
We bet on the wrong horse when we chose to make our economy unfettered capitalism, and continued down this wrong path when we fought every major reform, and now we are pushed between poor choices because the companies have become too powerful and their wastes too damaging.
>>They want you to think that this type of talk is "crazy" but its not.
It's crazy because basing your currency on market pressures is essentially placing your entire economy on a roulette wheel. The point of regulating it at the value-level is to avoid a boom and bust economy which plagued the nation for over a century before the Federal Reserve.
>>When we actually do see all of this play out, you will remember this little old post that I called "Fiat Currency" and understand what was being said all along. Maybe then, just maybe, you will understand the plea by me and Repent. God WILL right this wrong regardless. Let's glorify Him for doing so, BEFORE we see it all play out, when you are all slaves to the banks. Oops, you already are.
Putting major economic and ecological problems in the hands of god is the same as doing nothing. We are not afforded that luxury of laziness anymore. We are too technologically advanced, and too vast in our numbers to hope that everything will work itself out. We must solve our own problems.
>>Homeownership in the United States is a farce, we are merely renters. Stop paying your taxes and you will see who the real homeowner is.
You mean, be a leech to society and deprive others of existence for personal greed? A society is about sharing burdens. If you don't like the way we do it in this nation, with taxes, you are free to move, or start your own nation.
>>Enter the, common to the Atheists, 'Normalcy bias'.
It doesn't help that for the last 2000 years men like you have screamed about the coming end from street corners. If you want people to listen, preaching doom and gloom is the quickest way to not be taken seriously.
Transgene ,
ReplyDelete>>The point of regulating it at the value-level is to avoid a boom and bust economy which plagued the nation for over a century before the Federal Reserve.
You mean unlike today's economy? Bwahahahahahah You need some (mises.org) education.
Oh and this "value-level" that you require was called the Gold standard. Now its funny (read sad) money. Did you ignore the video to make these bare assertions?
>>We must solve our own problems.
By giving AWAY all the power to a choice few to issue the "carbon credit"? Take a trip to Hawaii, thus breaking the law, and get sent to carbon jail. God help us. Besides, if I DON'T go to Hawaii, or NOT build a coal plant in my back yard, then I get paid more of these carbon credits. Speaking of "luxury of laziness". *pshaw
>> If you don't like the way we do it in this nation, with taxes, you are free to move, or start your own nation.
Well, in fact, I have. D.A.N. We are Debunking Atheists Nation. A sovereign nation, with a Sovereign God.
>>It doesn't help that for the last 2000 years men like you have screamed about the coming end from street corners. If you want people to listen, preaching doom and gloom is the quickest way to not be taken seriously.
My argument is not intended to be convincing, I am merely commanded to speak the truth, 'convincing' is out of my hands.
Besides, It doesn't help that for the last 6000 years that people relied on the economic law that gold was money. Now a few hundred years will reveal that large mistake to run away from that standard.
Dan, if "convincing" is out of your hands, then you should maybe change the name of your blog.
ReplyDelete>>You mean unlike today's economy? Bwahahahahahah You need some (mises.org) education.
ReplyDeleteOur nation has had a long history of recessions, every few decades or so. The Federal Reserve helped to mitigate this, but the Reagan Era deregulated banks, and the growth of new forms of banking over the last couple decades that were not properly regulated, lead to companies exploiting debt for profit.
Oh, by the way, the Austrian school of economics is like the Creationism of economic schools. In other words, complete bunk that passes for knowledge to laypersons.
>>Oh and this "value-level" that you require was called the Gold standard. Now its funny (read sad) money.
Gold is prone to market pressures just like anything else. The point of the Federal Reserve is to control our dollar better than market pressures.
>>By giving AWAY all the power to a choice few to issue the "carbon credit"?
Yup. Hey, you guys have been fighting climate change science for decades. Now we have an overflow of policies that need to be pushed through, many of them worse than what we could have had if there weren't decades of obstructions funded by oil money.
This is what happens when you keep putting important policy decisions on the back-burner, it eventually gets so bad that extreme measures need to be passed to bring society into order. Our ecology is really suffering now, it's positively depressing if you look into it. All the dying species, damaged ecosystems, etc.
>>Take a trip to Hawaii, thus breaking the law, and get sent to carbon jail. God help us. Besides, if I DON'T go to Hawaii, or NOT build a coal plant in my back yard, then I get paid more of these carbon credits. Speaking of "luxury of laziness". *pshaw
You sound like you don't understand what cap and trade is. Cap and trade is about creating a market to trade pollution credits, thus penalizing polluters and rewarding clean factories.
>>Well, in fact, I have. D.A.N. We are Debunking Atheists Nation. A sovereign nation, with a Sovereign God.
It isn't a nation if you occupy a country. I was being quite serious, that if you don't like taxes, buy an island and make your own country.
>>My argument is not intended to be convincing, I am merely commanded to speak the truth, 'convincing' is out of my hands.
Then why make a post? If you write something expressing a viewpoint, it is simply good writing to make a rational case for yourself.
>>Besides, It doesn't help that for the last 6000 years that people relied on the economic law that gold was money.
Not really. The history of monetary exchange included pepper, salt, rice and grains, beads, shells, and various rare or precious metals. Gold is just one trade good out of many that existed before it and with it.
Where do you think the phrase "The man is not worth his salt" comes from?
>>Now a few hundred years will reveal that large mistake to run away from that standard
That's both historically wrong and an argument from tradition besides. We've traded all sorts of things as currency. Paper money is just the newest.
Reynold,
ReplyDelete>>Dan, if "convincing" is out of your hands, then you should maybe change the name of your blog.
Equivocation fallacy? To "debunk" one doth not need to "convince" the debunked, silly.
I am sure many Atheists believe I have not debunked any Atheists. But all I need to do is point them to this comment thread here. :7p
>>Equivocation fallacy? To "debunk" one doth not need to "convince" the debunked, silly.
ReplyDeleteYou weren't debunking anything, you were on a soapbox. Normal debate rules applied.
Transgene,
ReplyDelete>>Our nation has had a long history of recessions, every few decades or so. The Federal Reserve helped to mitigate this, but the Reagan Era deregulated banks, and the growth of new forms of banking over the last couple decades that were not properly regulated, lead to companies exploiting debt for profit.
You're quite mistaken. This garbage started when Clinton repealed the Glass–Steagall Act and released the hounds. The act separated investment banks from commercial banks. Banks ran with it until...present time. Want someone to blame? Clinton!!!!
>> In other words, complete bunk that passes for knowledge to laypersons.
Well, bare assertions must mean its true then.
>>Gold is prone to market pressures just like anything else.
Yea like the world standard is not "good enough". If you meant, not good enough to rob everyone blind, then valid. Have you seen the reality of that film yet?
>>The point of the Federal Reserve is to control our dollar better than market pressures.
Better? For WHO!??? We would be paying for 30 cents a gallon of gas if we were still under the gold standard today, with gold prices of today. If we were on the gold standard, by shere demand, we would be paying less then that. Gold would be much higher these days. Your reasoning is...silly. You wonder why I keep asking how you know your reasoning is valid? QED
By giving AWAY all the power to a choice few to issue the "carbon credit"?
>>Yup.
You feel you will somehow benefit from that? Giving power away does not gain power. Your reasoning is a contradiction. Expected.
>>This is what happens when you keep putting important policy decisions on the back-burner, it eventually gets so bad that extreme measures need to be passed to bring society into order
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security." ~Ben Franklin Enter patriot act and cap and trade. Sad scary little people. You wonder why you're getting bullied out of your freedoms? Just look at the comment above.
>>You sound like you don't understand what cap and trade is.
If you do not understand the possible escalation of that scenario, once power is handed over. You're deluded.
>>Not really. The history of monetary exchange included pepper, salt, rice and grains, beads, shells, and various rare or precious metals.
ALL of which is NOT Fiat currency. Thank you for proving MY point! Why do you think I am collecting ammo and seeds as fast as I can. :7p
>>Where do you think the phrase "The man is not worth his salt" comes from?
The Bible. Matthew 5:13 :7p
>>We've traded all sorts of things as currency. Paper money is just the newest.
And cap and trade will be our future very soon. Our fiat "experiment" will be going away shortly. You cannot tax past 100% to keep up with backing its so called "value". :7)
If you do not see the problem in fiat money yet, then God help you...no seriously. That being said, How do you know that your reasoning about this or ANYTHING is valid?
>>This garbage started when Clinton repealed the Glass–Steagall Act
ReplyDeleteYou haven't heard of the Alternative Mortgage Transactions Parity Act passed in 1982? This changed loans throughout the '80s, and the new practice was not properly regulated to prevent predatory loans. The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 deregulated a number of provisions in the Glass–Steagall Act; the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act of 1999 which further deregulated the Glass–Steagall Act was sponsored by Gramm, Leach, and Bliley who were all Republicans, and the primary "yes" votes came from Republicans, with "nay" votes primarily from Democrats.
So it is not proper to blame Clinton. The repeal was a Republican-led effort.
>>Well, bare assertions must mean its true then.
History demonstrates that Anarchy only works for very small populations, and that unregulated capitalism does not work with regard to human rights, pollution, safety and sanitation. Mises is an advocate of anarcho-capitalism.
>>Yea like the world standard is not "good enough"
I'm familiar with these arguments. They still make the mistake of concluding that market pressure is good enough for something as important as an economy.
>>Better? For WHO!
In theory, our nation. In practice, there are conflicts of interest which cause problems. We could do much better if it was better regulated, along with banking.
>>We would be paying for 30 cents a gallon of gas if we were still under the gold standard today
The oil oligarchy has made sure to fix prices such that we will be driven to the brink of economic ruin, while they run off with our money. Oil money is behind much of the corruption in our politics. Ever heard of the Kochs? They run much of our politics through entities which mold public opinion in favor of climate-change denial, deregulated capitalism and pollution standards, low taxes, etc. The TEA Party was a Koch invention, for example. They funded it in the early stages and provided seminars to train TEA Party chapter leaders in ideological talking points.
>>You feel you will somehow benefit from that?
The system it provides will benefit us by pressuring polluters to become more efficient. Instead of condemning it, we should be siding with it, and working against lawmakers who would undermine it.
>>"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
That quote does not apply, for both the fact that it is a completely different context, and because quoting an authority does not make you correct.
>>You wonder why you're getting bullied out of your freedoms?
Being able to pump noxious gasses into the air is not a freedom. It is a menace to people who live near to it, and climate science shows us that it is a menace to our species, which will find it increasingly difficult to live as the world ecology changes around us.
The point of the cap and trade legislation is to create an economy for polluters where none existed before. Presently, there is no market that favors clean energy, and clean factories, and because they are more expensive technologies, our trade market actually favors pollution. Cap and trade works by changing this so that pollution is no longer favored by the market, and clean energy is.
>>If you do not understand the possible escalation of that scenario, once power is handed over
Like I said: whatever happens there, is better than the mess we have created by doing nothing. On our current course, Earth will be unrecognizable before the 21st century.
>>ALL of which is NOT Fiat currency.
There is no practical difference between those currencies and what we have now. Because our government sets a value for a dollar, it has that value on our market.
D.A.N. said...
ReplyDeleteReynold,
>>Dan, if "convincing" is out of your hands, then you should maybe change the name of your blog.
Equivocation fallacy? To "debunk" one doth not need to "convince" the debunked, silly.
Then I ask again: If you are NOT TRYING to convince us, Dan...why do you have this blog up? Are you trying to convert us or not???
Besides, to debunk, one needs to present evidence that the other side is wrong. You haven't even tried that for a long time; ever since Sye came by you just assume that you're right, and then shift the burden of proof to us.
Examples being your asking stuff like: "how do you know that your reasoning about this or anything is valid" which assumes that a)your god exists and b)that he or she or whatever is somehow the "basis" for reasoning.
Both of which have yet to be shown to be the case. Instead of giving evidence for your side, you just assume that those are the case and go on to claim victory.
The fact that you have to do that shows that in the end, without claiming the things you need to prove at the outset, you have nothing.
I am sure many Atheists believe I have not debunked any Atheists. But all I need to do is point them to this comment thread here. :7p
All they have to do is read through some of the posts of this blog to see how you just spin your wheels with this circular reasoning of Sye's.
Reynold,
ReplyDelete>>Then I ask again: If you are NOT TRYING to convince us, Dan...why do you have this blog up? Are you trying to convert us or not???
My argument is not intended to be convincing, I am merely commanded to speak the truth, 'convincing' is out of my hands. This blog's purpose is described above quite clearly.
>>Instead of giving evidence for your side, you just assume that those are the case and go on to claim victory.
The only victory there will be, with you Reynold, is when you repent. As you are well aware, repentance comes BEFORE knowledge of truth, not after: 2 Timothy 2:24-26
>>The fact that you have to do that shows that in the end, without claiming the things you need to prove at the outset, you have nothing.
OR The claim is that God has revealed Himself to EVERYONE already, and that this is exposed with every truth claim, every knowledge claim, and even every rational thought you have. The work has already been done here.
>>All they have to do is read through some of the posts of this blog to see how you just spin your wheels with this circular reasoning of Sye's.
Did you use your reasoning, to test your reasoning about this? Oops, viciously circular if so. How do you know your reasoning, in a non viciously circular fashion of course, is valid? :7)
Sorry but you've put the cart before the horse, again. Repentance can come only after knowledge, not before. Without knowledge, there's no apparent need to repent, is there? Stupid circular (biblical) reasoning.
ReplyDeleteAnd then you just go on, repeating the same unsubstantiated claims..."god has revealed himself to everyone already..." and that even our own thoughts are evidence of this? Holy shit. Talk about wild assertions.
You just love to call others out on circular reasoning but you never realize it when you do it.
How do you know that YOUR reasoning is valid? God's revelation? How? Did he reveal himself to you before you were born and thus you also knew that you could trust your senses? (the other thing you like to ask, I remember, is how can we trust our senses)
Something else...why would your god have need of a command for his servants to proclaim his existence if he's already revealed himself to us???
ReplyDeleteReynold,
ReplyDelete>>How do you know that YOUR reasoning is valid? God's revelation? How? Did he reveal himself to you before you were born and thus you also knew that you could trust your senses?
You seem to be doubting that its possible that an an omniscient, omnipotent being could reveal things to us, such that we can be certain of them. You will be teetering on intellectual dishonesty if that is indeed the case.
If all powerful, then able to reveal His existence, so that we are certain of it.
>>Something else...why would your god have need of a command for his servants to proclaim his existence if he's already revealed himself to us???
I thought of that myself. I believe its for our purpose and something to do. God wants us to tell the truth about Him, so we do. He knows we want to help out in pure empathy, care, etc. The prayer, as you know, is "Thy will be done"...in other words... we trust, have faith with, you. We may not have the power of a slick ad campaign to convince, like the Atheists attempt, but we do proclaim His Glory...unflinchingly. God hears our pleas though. He may even change His plan, in order to save you. We hope for that.
Ready for real knowledge yet? Your repentance will get you there. IT will ultimately be your choice. For that free will we thank God also.
Dan quoting me:
ReplyDeleteHow do you know that YOUR reasoning is valid? God's revelation? How? Did he reveal himself to you before you were born and thus you also knew that you could trust your senses?
You seem to be doubting that its possible that an an omniscient, omnipotent being could reveal things to us, such that we can be certain of them. You will be teetering on intellectual dishonesty if that is indeed the case.
Whether it's possible or not is irrelevant. Whether it's happened or not is. If you claim that he "revealed things to us such that blah blah blah..." then where is the evidence that such a revelation took place?
Dan quoting me:
Something else...why would your god have need of a command for his servants to proclaim his existence if he's already revealed himself to us???
I thought of that myself. I believe its for our purpose and something to do. God wants us to tell the truth about Him, so we do. He knows we want to help out in pure empathy, care, etc. The prayer, as you know, is "Thy will be done"...in other words... we trust, have faith with, you.
In other words Dan, you don't have a clue as to why, if god has "revealed" himself to us, that there'd still be a need to preach about him.
Unlike you, I do have an answer: Perhaps he doesn't exist.
We may not have the power of a slick ad campaign to convince, like the Atheists attempt, but we do proclaim His Glory...unflinchingly. God hears our pleas though. He may even change His plan, in order to save you. We hope for that.
Hey, you xians started with the posters and billboards before we did...and you xians sure as hell don't like it when atheists try to spread our views the same way you people have for years.
Dan: Can't you see that what you said here
God hears our pleas though. He may even change His plan, in order to save you. We hope for that.
directly contradicts what you say here?
IT will ultimately be your choice. For that free will we thank God also.
If it's "god's plan" as to whether I get "saved" or not, then it's not "free choice" is it? So that means that there's nothing to thank him for there.
Reynold,
ReplyDelete>>...then where is the evidence that such a revelation took place?
Are you denying the Bible, or Jesus, (Both special revelation) exists? DO you deny the universe exists? I believe you are, since that is the ONLY way you can deny some of the evidence that we have.
>>In other words Dan, you don't have a clue as to why, if god has "revealed" himself to us, that there'd still be a need to preach about him. Unlike you, I do have an answer: Perhaps he doesn't exist.
Oh, you misunderstand, I know why. 1 Peter 3:15, 2 Timothy 4:1-3
>>directly contradicts what you say here?
It will ultimately be your choice. For that free will we thank God also.
No, that does not contradict anything. Its between you and Him. He will give you what you demand, as promised, I want Him to choose you as His own to stop that.
>>If it's "god's plan" as to whether I get "saved" or not, then it's not "free choice" is it? So that means that there's nothing to thank him for there.
Remember 4:45 of part 7 if Foreordination and Human Responsibility? It reveals all of that for you, with sniper precision.
D.A.N. said...
ReplyDeleteReynold,
>>...then where is the evidence that such a revelation took place?
Are you denying the Bible, or Jesus, (Both special revelation) exists?
Since the bible does have errors and false prophecies (as that messiahtruth site and various biblical errancy sites show), I can say that it's just a man-made work, and not "special revelation".
So, did you have access to this "special revelation" at a time when you didn't have access to your senses? Remember...you've once claimed that it's this "divine revelation" that lets you trust your senses in the first place!
DO you deny the universe exists? I believe you are, since that is the ONLY way you can deny some of the evidence that we have.
The universe itself shows us that it can't be this 6000 year old creation as the bible says. The universe itself shoots down your bible.
Dan:
1 Peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
That verse is talking to those trying to SPREAD the faith, not to doubters. The second verse naturally blames the doubters moral failures for us not believing this nonesense. Duh. What do you THINK that a holy book of any stipe, Dan, would say about those who don't buy it???
I'm sorry, but the contradiction stands. You can't have free choice if whether you choose or not is part of god's plan.
Neither I, nor was anyone else except you, on that thread impressed with that video. Fuck...Bahnsen says that maybe god wishes that all would do the right thing, but its not god's will that all would be saved? The fuck???
"we must conclude that it's not god's will to save all men"...holy christ fuck! So god does plan on having people burn in hell forever, he actually WANTS that? Sweet jesus..
Bahnsen says that jesus said that all who do come to him he will accept, BUT the problem is is that it seems to be god/jesus' will in the first place that not all will try to come to him in the first place!
It's not god's plan for all to want to come to him, yet it's still somehow our fault??
Note what the guys says around 4:32: "There is no one who desires to be saves who is not ordained to be desired to be saved"....the hell?? He then goes on to say that there is no one who is not ordained to be saved who will desire to be saved??
Where in the hell IS the "free will" in this shit??
He then goes on to say that at judgement, since those who kept on saying "all their lives that" 'we want nothing to do with you'God will say: 'since you didn't want MY will to be done, then your will shall be done".
Problems: That can only possibly apply to those who already believed that biblegod exists and told him to pike off already.
Guess what? Atheists don't believe that god exists in the FIRST PLACE!
So how can that apply to us?
Secondly he doesn't even realize that he (like you) has contradicted himself. Right after he talks about those being saved and not-saved being "ordained" and "not ordained" to be so in the first place, he then claims that "god" is just going to give those people what THEY wanted?
What they wanted was irrelevent! It was all ordained!
Oh yeah...our efforts, our prayers "count" BUT what actually takes place is "the will of god" and no one can go against god's will the man says.
Yeah, "sniper precision" all right...all the was made precise was how stupid the xian position here is.
The problem is, I think, that he's trying to have it so that it's still "our fault" somehow for going to hell, YET at the same time, trying to show that "god's plan" is not something that can be affected by anything that we do (in order to shore up the "omnipotence" thing).
ReplyDeleteHe can't do that though, without making your god look like a right prick in that he has "ordained" some people to go to heaven and others not to.
Otherwise, xian theists are left with the problem of people going to hell when this "omnipotent" god theoretically doesn't want them to.
You know, that whole "no one can snatch them from my father's grasp" or something like that.
ReplyDeleteRon Paul is about the worst thing that could happen to the Presidency, and to Gold. Ron Paul would do to Gold what Obama did to shovel ready jobs. Kill it. At any rate, this is my latest post on RON PAUL
ReplyDeletePapa,
ReplyDeleteThanks buddy. I appreciate you speaking your mind. I just love that.
There are things that I disagree with RP myself. For example, I disagree with the stance on drugs.
Libertarians believe that being able to choose whatever drug are a form of freedom but instead drugs remove freedom and replace it with slavery. They're a slave to their own addictions.
They also violate freedoms of others by risking lives. Even if drugs just simply destroy their own life, it affects others in a very negative and unfair way for those who care about that person. They are not free to be as they please, but instead have to have sleepless night worried about their addict dying. Kids with addictive parents are the ones that suffer the most obviously.
That being said. Ron Paul is the ONLY detraction from the two headed one party system of today. Everyone else party is Cronyism of the current system. That alone demand such a detractor like RP. There would not be hooker and heroin shops on every corner because RP would not have to power to do so. Besides that would be a Congress thingy. I have better odds to win the lotto, ...and I never play. These are strawman arguments against a philosophy of the libertarian principles, NOT what RP's platform is.
I will concede that the Ron Paulers need a leader. By that I mean that Ron Paul is spot on on many things but he lack that charisma that everyone simply looks for in a president. I cannot deny that. I thought Peter Schiff would of taken the reins for that, but that never came to fruition. Rand might do that shortly but not for this election. RP is a better man for a fix then any other. Who do you want? Romney, Mormon that is just a crony for Wall Street? Liberal media's shill Rick Perry, the democrat wolf in sheep's clothing? I see nothing but moral corruption myself. Something Paul has yet to be a part of.
Gold prices would drop if we went to a Gold standard? Seems to be a non sequitur. If China bought up all the gold prices would spike, and its the reason why prices are much higher these days. They are seeking to get away from the US Dollar. Look for over $2000 by year end. That being said even RP admits to the complications of doing that. He is not running on the platform to go back to the gold system but to end the FED. I would LOVE to see that and would vote for anyone that screams that as much as RP does. No one fits that bill.
Blessings.
I'm from Canada, so I'm clueless here: What exactly did Obama do to jobs? Didn't he inherit an economy that was already fucked?
ReplyDeleteReynold,
ReplyDelete>>Otherwise, xian theists are left with the problem of people going to hell when this "omnipotent" god theoretically doesn't want them to.
Well God does want to save you, but your free will says you do not want to be with God at all. Forced love is not love. Since you refuse to humble yourself before Him, and your pride decided to choose evil over Him. Then, reluctantly, He honors your "will be done" Its that simple.
"forced love is not love"? Uh, what's this threat of hellfire then, if not the ultimate in coercion?
ReplyDeleteDan, what you say after that is pure stupidity on your part: The guy who you linked to outright SAID that not all are "ordained" to accept god...Do you have any idea what that means?
Think: Who does the "ordaining"?