"The skeptic sees God revealed in nature and doubts Him, sees God revealed in Scripture and doubts Him, sees God revealed in the worship of countless believers and doubts Him, sees God revealed even as the object of his own doubt -- and doubts Him. The skeptic has no wish to believe, for he finds in doubt a religion absolved of any requirement to prove itself, an anti-faith whose god reveals himself nowhere -- not in nature, not in scripture, not in the worship of the mass of mankind. How clever it is of skepticism, having nothing to offer as a faith, to pose as doubt."
~ Robert Brault
Nice strawman your friend has set up there. The "skeptic" is only this: A person who analyzes the evidence before him and then makes up their mind about whether to accept something.
ReplyDeleteThe skeptic sees God revealed in nature and doubts Him
Oh? Which "God" do we "see"? Can you go by just nature itself and guess which "God" is supposed to be real, from all the man-made "gods" out there?
You can't.
Besides that, the evidence that we see from nature contradicts Genesis big time. Read The Creationists by Ronald Numbers. People wanted to believe the OT version of events, but exposure to the field shot that down.
sees God revealed in Scripture and doubts Him
Given the failed messianic prophecies, bad science, etc...duh!
Dan
ReplyDeleteYou mean countless believers believing countless gods.
Of course you mean"your"god and not those other worshipers gods.
As far as the reference to religion, that's an old trick.It gives you a familiar base on which to build your arguments.You can't imagine somebody not believing in god so whatever they believe is their religion.
Like all things built upon a false premise any arguments that follow from it are necessarily incorrect
RB "The skeptic sees God revealed in nature and doubts Him,"
ReplyDeleteFD "The skeptic doubts that God is revealed in nature"
RB "[the skeptic] sees God revealed in Scripture and doubts Him,"
FD "[the skeptic] sees Man in scripture and so doubts its divinity"
RB "[the skeptic] sees God revealed in the worship of countless believers and doubts Him,"
FD "[the skeptic] sees countless believers worshipping many Gods and doubts the existence of all"
RB "[the skeptic] sees God revealed even as the object of his own doubt -- and doubts Him.
FD "[the skeptic] recognises that doubting something doesn't automatically cause it to exist - otherwise there would be no doubt."
RB "The skeptic has no wish to believe, for he finds in doubt a religion absolved of any requirement to prove itself, an anti-faith whose god reveals himself nowhere -- not in nature, not in scripture, not in the worship of the mass of mankind."
FD "The skeptic has no wish to believe for he finds no evidence to reduce the doubt. He sees no sign of God -- not in nature, not in Scripture, not in mass worship."
RB "How clever it is of skepticism, having nothing to offer as a faith, to pose as doubt."
FD "How stupid it is of religion, having nothing to offer but blind faith posing as Truth."
It says:
ReplyDelete""The skeptic sees God revealed in nature and doubts Him....."
Talk about helping oneself, not to mention the obvious presupposition.
The skeptic just sees nature, you're the one who puts God there.
i.e. the skeptic is merely denying your unaccounted for claim.
ReplyDeleteThe skeptic sees nature revealed in nature.
ReplyDeletesees man revealed in Scripture and doubts Him
sees money and control revealed in the worship of countless believers
sees a healthy dose of scepticism revealed even as the object of his own doubt -- and doesnt doubt it