Does NASA support Creationism?In a wild turn around NASA will soon be promoting, and funding, Creationism.
NASA apparently felt they could do just what the movie "Expelled" exposed.
In this PR nightmare, supervisors at NASA’s prestigious Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) decided to violate someones First Amendment rights and in turn will be paying for, and bringing attention to, the subject of Creationism. Wahoo!
We just love when Government agencies do this. It just shows the foresight that our Founding Fathers had to protect our rights as individuals against large entities and Government organizations.
David Coppedge was a “Team Lead” Systems Administrator on the Cassini mission until JPL demoted him for allegedly “pushing religion” by loaning interested co-workers DVDs supportive of intelligent design.
Coppedge is now suing for religious discrimination, harassment and retaliation; violation of his free speech rights; and wrongful demotion.
“Anyone who thinks that today’s culture of science allows an open discussion of evolution is sorely mistaken,” said Dr. John G. West, associate director of the Center for Science and Culture. “When it comes to intelligent design, private and government-run agencies are suppressing free speech.” [complete article]
I was wondering if this is the same David Coppedge who is continuing his Father's ministry? Dr. James Fletcher Coppedge, Jr. wrote a book on the subject of molecular biology and the laws of chance. If it is, I am sure the money will be put to good use.
Thanks Government!
this is just wrong, how to you back up this post?
ReplyDeleteA little cart before horse, the suit has just been filed according to the Discovery Institute press release.
ReplyDeleteChasia,
ReplyDeleteYou're right, I was just digging a little, that's all. It will be an interesting case. Stay tuned and let me know if I miss the updates.
Can I just say, in all seriousness .... ROFL.
ReplyDeleteCarry on.
Boy, are you guys off-base. It's not a matter of 'freedom of speech' or 'freedom of religion'... those secular-humanist ideals that arose (along with the idea of 'human rights') during the 'Enlightenment' and the 'Age of Reason', and were enshrined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights by the Founding Fathers. No. This is a matter of qualifications. Coppedge's advocacy for 'Intelligent Design' reveals that he is too stupid and gullible... OR dishonest and subversive... OR both... to be trusted in a position of responsibility.
ReplyDeleteFor the most part, the folks at NASA are aware that 'Intelligent Design' IS NOT science, by any stretch of the imagination. They KNOW that it is a POLITICAL STRATEGY, invented at the 'Discovery Institute' for the expressly-stated purpose of undermining science education, and sabotaging science itself. How come YOU guys don't know that? Is it because you are ignorant?... stupid and gullible?... dishonest? I can't think of any other alternatives.
Look up 'wedge strategy' and "Creationism's Trojan Horse."
You people make me sick... 'Liars For Jesus'. You should be ashamed.
Hey Duck,
ReplyDeleteSo you believe Evolution is a fact and everyone that does not believe in it are, as you say, ignorant, stupid and gullible, or dishonest?
Really? Here is something I just read a few days ago.
"Evolutionists say evolution is a fact, every bit as much as gravity is a fact. That is remarkable. We see and even feel gravity everyday. Evolution, on the other hand, entails rather dramatic, one-time, events that were supposed to have occurred long ago, when no one was around to witness them. How could we be sure of such a theory? There must be some extremely powerful and compelling scientific evidence for evolution to make it a fact as gravity is a fact. That is what one would think. But, surprisingly, there is no such evidence. When evolutionists try to explain why evolution is a fact, it is a tremendous anticlimax."(Uncommon Descent)
Biblical Creationism is certainly a falsifier to Evolution, and vise verse. So gather your evidence and we will gather ours and we can discuss it. Deny one or the other just shows the dogma that is not science. Evolutionary theory artificially rules out a kind of cause before it has a chance to speak by the evidence. The cause of intelligence. This is why they pigeon hole themselves and scientists often wear, with pride, the title of metaphysical naturalism. Do you now see the dangers of scientists taking philosophical positions such as this?
>>No. This is a matter of qualifications.
You are qualified as a scientist if you believe in the Dogmatic paradigm called evolution ONLY.
Got it.
Hey Dan, you old tax protesting hypocrite (Mark 12:17); you old Obama protesting hypocrite (Romans 13 1-7). How they hanging?
ReplyDeleteHey Rufus- couldn't stay away, could you? You're a glutton for punishment, and it takes one to know one.
ReplyDeleteHey Duck- yes, Dan is a bit off base, but- and maybe this is just my irrepressible atheistic optimism- I'm convinced he's a nice guy. Yes, we've been through evolution with Dan before, over, under, sideways, down, backwards, forwards, square and round. We don't seem to be getting anywhere, and our paychecks from the Devil are arriving less and less regularly, but someone has to be a grunt in the trenches.
cheers from still rather unseasonably chilly Vienna, zilch
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteThe only way I am protesting taxes is by my one vote. Are you claiming that is unGodly?
As far as the powers to be we are indeed not to "resisteth the power" because all power is given by God.
Last I checked I am not trying to overthrow the government or pull some McVeigh stunt. So what are you trying to insinuate?
That is like being resentful for the success of an atheist. God gave him those successes so who am I to claim that they do not deserve it? Obama's success is the direct result of God and all that happens is a result of God's intervention and allowances. If God doesn't want it, then it will not happen.
It is confusing though, since God does not want us to follow the power of evil and to only honor Him in any conflicting situations. (tinyurl.com/absoluteauthority) I believe that God does not want us voting for abortions or legalized pedophilia. These things we must fight against, and protect the innocent.
I'm not claiming that any of it is ungodly. Your book is. Your holy, inerrant, word of god.
ReplyDeleteConfusing isn't the word you want. The word you want is contradicting.
Your savior said pay your taxes. He didn't say anything about protesting or voting.As for what the taxes are used for, don't you think the Romans were using those taxes for "ungodly purposes? They were using them to occupy Jesus' homeland and oppress his people. But he said to pay them.
Just voting is resisting the power. The American revolution was resisting the power. Actually, if you take Paul at his word, we should still have the Roman Empire and its emperors.
I'm not saying any of this. Your holy inerrant word of God says it; your savior says it; his number one apostle says it.
You wrote "I believe that God does not want us voting for abortions or legalized pedophilia."
Yes, that is true. You, Dan, believe it. Even if it contradicts what your God's word says. You cherry pick, you take what you like, and ignore or spin what you don't.
You once wrote that our government came from the Bible. Where? Where does the Bible mention anything remotely resembling a democratic republic? The only governments I see in the Bible are monarchies and theocracies.
Rufus,
ReplyDelete>>Just voting is resisting the power.
Really?! You are kidding right? So God says to listen to your government and my government says to vote for change and that is against God somehow? Really?
>>You once wrote that our government came from the Bible. Where?
I may have been wrong when I claimed America to be a "Christian Nation". No where does it say we do things because of Christ or anything close. The words Jesus or Christ is nowhere in any of our Governmental writings.
I guess the more accurate claim is that America was constructed based on a Deism worldview. I am sure we all can at least agree on that. Fair?
It's your book, Dan, not mine. The one you say you live by. The one you say everyone should live by. Don't get mad at me for pointing out what your book says.
ReplyDeleteDan says:
ReplyDeleteI guess the more accurate claim is that America was constructed based on a Deism worldview. I am sure we all can at least agree on that. Fair?
Not that I'm an expert in American history, but my impression is that the founding fathers were a mixed lot religiously, but had common goals that were more important to them than doctrine: they wanted to establish a system of government that was democratic and not oppressive, and wanted to leave religious belief up to the individual.
Zilch,
ReplyDelete>>they wanted to establish a system of government that was democratic and not oppressive, and wanted to leave religious belief up to the individual
Calm and reason prevail, yet again. :7)
>>but had common goals that were more important to them than doctrine:
More important then God? Maybe that is where they went wrong. Breaking the First Commandment is no place to start. We are, after all, at war for souls. There are no nice guys on the battlefield. Hoo-raaa!!
"Maybe that is where they went wrong."
ReplyDeleteAnd there it is. You don't care about this form of government. You don't care about freedom of speech or freedom of religion, except for your own. You want a theocracy, based on your beliefs.If your taxes were used to force people to accept your beliefs, keep people from voicing their dissent, you wouldn't have a problem. And then you wouldn't be such a hypocrite.
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteBut you are fully OK with spending our tax dollars on things that are Religiously against my beliefs such as evolutionary secular teaching and abortions, yet you are certainly OK with it. Hypocrite much?
My savior didn't tell me to pay my taxes.Yours told you to pay your taxes. If you have a problem with that, it's your problem, Dan. Your book, your savior. Take it up with Jesus. You may have a problem with what your taxes go to pay for. But Jesus didn't say pay your taxes, except for the stuff you don't like. Taxes that were being used for all manner of things that I bet Jesus didn't like, or you either. Like I said, it's your book, your savior. Don't get mad at me.
ReplyDeleteRufus,
ReplyDeleteMaybe my new post today will help you understand Jesus a little better.
I understand Jesus fine. I understand when he says one thing that contradicts something else he said another time. And those videos are some of the funniest shit I've seen since the Insane Clown Posse video and the parody of it. Good one, Dan. Actually, it was the conservatives that wanted Jesus gone. Conservatives. And if he was here today conservatives would want him gone. And I like the way that guy twice mentioned the parable about the talents, but didn't say anything about "sell all you have and give to the poor" or "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven". Instead of Christianity, call it Contradictionanity.
ReplyDeleteDan
ReplyDeleteBut you are fully OK with spending our tax dollars on things that are Religiously against my beliefs such as evolutionary secular teaching and abortions, yet you are certainly OK with it. Hypocrite much?
"Evolutionary secular" teaching is accurate teaching. It matches the facts we see in the world around us. Deal with it.
And "secular" means that the teacher isn't allowed to say that there is NO god, or that there IS a god. That's left to the parents, churches, etc.
Yet if the teachers don't kowtow to your beliefs, they're the enemy, right?
As for your false concern about abortions? Please. Your god killed many pregnant women and babies in the OT, and is, if one assumes he exists, responsible for every miscarriage that happens.
There is no such thing as a religious pro-life person. The closest is "conditional" pro-life, where it's wrong to take a baby's life unless God wants it done.
Yet you call him a hypocrite? You really should stop throwing that word around so much. It's boomeranging you upside the head too often.
Hey, Rufus!
ReplyDeleteAs an unapologetic Creationist Christian, I just want to say that I am going to blatantly steal your Marxism icon and use it on Twitter. Hahahaha!