February 26, 2010

Does Allah = Yahweh?




This presentation will add to my previous post about False Religions.

Matthew 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it."

The Muslims of today use to be the Pagans in the Biblical days bit.ly/NotAllah

12 comments:

  1. Does Allah = Yahweh? Yes and no.

    No, because they have different stories. Yes, because they are both imaginary.

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  2. LOL
    Yes, because they are both imaginary.
    No, because Yahweh belivers have killed more people. Allah belivers are catching up.

    Us poor atheists/planet are court in the cross fire.

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  3. More importantly Dan, you really need to get your info from better sources than "Molotov Mitchell".

    This video by World Net Daily writer Molotov (and believe me when I say that the name fits) Mitchell has been around for months. It was shocking when I first saw it and when I view it now, I am still repulsed.

    In this video, Mitchell criticizes Rick Warren for speaking out against the infamous Ugandan "kill the gays" bill.

    And just so that no one mistakes his position, Mitchell goes into detail as to why he thinks Uganda is correct for pushing this bill, which goes as far as punishing gays and lesbians with the death penalty.

    Amongst Mitchell's points:

    * The Bible is totally on Uganda's side

    * Uganda is merely reacting because an "evil homosexual king, Mwanga" raped young boys and murdered a group of them who would not have sex with him (never mind that this incident took place between the years of 1885-1886)

    * Uganda "doesn't want to kill homosexuals, they just want them to stop practicing homosexual acts"

    * If gay Ugandans don't like the law, they can leave

    * and the Founding Fathers would have agreed with Ugandans. I believe his words were (at 2:51): "Ugandans are making decisions that our very Founding Fathers made so long ago but we are terrified to touch today."


    But the most offensive item from this video comes at 3:00 when Mitchell actually evokes the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to justify not only this bill but his labored defense of it: "Like the great Dr. King told us, 'the moral arm of the universe is long but it bends towards justice.' Ugandans, stay on the right side of history."

    Mitchell's diatribe is probably the most disgusting thing I have ever seen and the fact that he actually evokes the words of Dr. King, a man who died for the causes of justice and nonviolence, to support a bill that would create genocide is beyond foul.


    Just search google for "World Net Daily Writer Evokes Martin Luther King" to see the article.

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  4. Oranges,

    Thanks for that point. It doesn't surprise me in the least that I don't agree with every view of some dude. But...

    Should we kill sinners? Maybe people would think twice before raping someone if they knew they would be stoned to death. Should we ban sinning? Sure that would help a Nation.

    Should we pass laws that accommodate sinning? Absolutely not! If you want to break the laws, and break God's Laws, that is between you and God but I certainly will not be a part of passing laws that allow the things that are against God's will. Passing laws that break His Laws seems very illogical to me. We are not to sit idly by and allow evil to happen.

    God Himself admonished Ezekiel of the need to warn the lost, He said,

    “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; therefore hear a word from My mouth, and give them warning from Me: When I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. (Ezekiel 3:17-18)

    I found it interesting that you chose a mere part of the story instead of the whole picture. Uganda does not want to kill gays in some tyrannical manner, they want the practice of gay sex to end. They were under a king that made it an executive order for men to submit to his advances and then burned those who did not. Put it in that manner and I agree with Uganda and Molotov.

    I will add though that killing homosexuals may be wrong for the simple fact that they die in their sins, they lose all hope of salvation. We need to help seek to save the lost not condemn them, that is God's job. Uganda wants sinning to stop and for that I applaud there efforts.

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  5. Dan,
    You’re showing your true colours now.

    Your bible/religion supports rape!

    Society doesn't.

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

    Deuteronomy 22:23-24
    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbours wife.

    So you would only stone a rapist if he doesn't pay up LOL. Why would a girl marry someone who raped them? Oh that right God believers have a thing against women.

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    1. None of those verses support Rape? They are merely being taken out of context in order to support Rape. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 has already been explained and has already been shown that it does not support Rape.

      http://apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=11&article=5197

      And so has the second one:

      http://www.evidenceunseen.com/bible-difficulties-2/ot-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/deut-2223-29-does-this-passage-allow-for-rape/


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  6. Ant,

    I thought this was an evolutionary survival of the fittest world or at least according to your worldview.

    Seals promote rape so why not us?

    If you were truly living in an evolutionary world you would condone it.

    Plus the Bible was making rules of punishment for the heinous crime of rape. Marry the woman you rape.

    Dinner conversations and Christmas with the in-laws would be...Awkward!

    The Bible says that you must right your wrongs about rape. You don't agree?

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  7. OK rape is not best for the function of our society so therefore it is not accepted. Not all seals/humans rape the ones that do are outcasts and not involved in the seal/human society. Because there excluded from seal/human societies they don't benefit form it. eg seals hunting in packs to minimize the risk of being attacked from predators. Excluded raping seals fall victim more easyly to predators. Seal justice system.

    Survival of the fittest aka survival of the best adopted. So in social society rape or any other action that is contracting the best interests of the society are not accepted. If rape was rampant in a society there would be no trust nor dignity and then the society would not function.

    Again why should the women be forced to marry her rapist?

    There should be and is punishment for rape as a deterrent,punishmnet and solace for the victim. However it should be and is more than paying the victoms father and forcing the poor girl to a life without free will.

    If we are truly created by a loving God a you blindly follow the belief in. why does the bible (god) demand enforcement differnt morals to what is best for society?

    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. Exodus 21:20-21

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    1. If we are truly created by a loving God a you blindly follow the belief in. why does the bible (god) demand enforcement differnt morals to what is best for society?

      When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. Exodus 21:20-21

      This is the most common example of a Bible Verse that Skeptics love to take out of context. But, unfortunately, for them,it has also been addressed and explained as well, and it does not say what Skeptics try to make it say.

      https://www.revelation.co/2013/06/09/bible-says-its-okay-to-beat-your-slave-as-long-as-they-dont-die-exodus-2120-21/

      https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/feedback-does-bible-encourage-masters-beat-their-slaves/

      https://answersingenesis.org/bible-history/the-bible-and-slavery/

      https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/doesnt-the-bible-support-slavery/

      This Bible Verse is addressed in all of these articles. You have zero excuse!!

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  8. Oranges,

    Thanks for that point. It doesn't surprise me in the least that I don't agree with every view of some dude.

    Dan, you have used his videos to make your points before. The implication being you agree with Mitchell. If thats not the case, I wouldnt use even the selected videos of such a grubby liar.

    It's akin to you posting videos about by Hitler (I know, I know, roll with me here..) because you agree with his views on one topic.

    But, then, you don't really seem sure you DO disagree with Mitchell about killing homosexuals.

    Should we kill sinners?
    No Dan. No. No "if's","buts", or "maybes". No.

    Should we pass laws that accommodate sinning?
    Like allowing gluttony? Thats a lack of a law to ban it, but its the same effect. So yes Dan, it should be legal to "sin", if society decides that sin is perfectly acceptable. Why? Because your narrow religious dogma is not shared by society as a whole, who will disagree about what constitutes "sin".

    I will add though that killing homosexuals may be wrong for the simple fact that they die in their sins, they lose all hope of salvation.
    Yeah. So really you DO agree with Mitchell, and Uganda. Nice. Anyone who starts a sentence "killing homosexuals may be wrong" deserves nothing but contempt. I'm sure Jesus, assuming such a person really existed, would be horrified by it.

    I certainly am.

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  9. That video was the biggest piece of crap I have every seen. The historical inaccuracies and exaggerations were appalling.

    The idea for Allah was inspired by the Arabic moon god AND the Jewish god of the book.

    The video really minimized violence in the name of Christianity and over exaggerated the violent aspects of Islam.

    Overall, the speaker is a douchebag.

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  10. @Dan

    I love the post. And you have attracted a lot of fire because of it.

    I have been dying to write about universalism. A surprising amount of people support that.

    Anyways, keep it up.
    -Cullen Webb
    Nation Pains

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